Demonstrate your Biblical evidence that there will be sin in heaven.
New Heavens and a New Earth
17 “See, I will create
new heavens and a new earth.
The former things will not be remembered,
nor will they come to mind. Yet it tells us in IS 66:24 “And they will go out and look on the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; the worms that eat them will not die, the fire that burns them will not be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind.” That seems to me as remembering every Sabbath after bowing down before God for 24 hours.
18 But be glad and rejoice forever
in what I will create,
for I will create Jerusalem to be a delight
and its people a joy.
19 I will rejoice over Jerusalem
and take delight in my people;
the sound of weeping and of crying
will be heard in it no more.
20 “Never again will there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not live out his years; Seems like that means we will die at some point.
the one who dies at a hundred
will be thought a mere child;
the one who fails to reach a hundred
will be considered accursed. This is the verse that indicates some will sin and not be able to live out their lives.
21 They will build houses and dwell in them;
they will plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 No longer will they build houses and others live in them,
or plant and others eat.
For as the days of a tree,
so will be the days of my people;
my chosen ones will long enjoy
the work of their hands.
23 They will not labor in vain,
nor will they bear children doomed to misfortune; Yet we are told we will not know our wives in that way
for they will be a people blessed by the Lord,
they and their descendants with them.
24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are still speaking I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb will feed together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox,
and dust will be the serpent’s food.
They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.
How is there going to be sin, as all sin causes pain, and there will be no more pain in heaven?
I guess you will have to ask Isaiah that question
I've already posted this verse to you and yet you're willing to blatantly contradict it.
Which verse is "this verse"?
Okay Gary, we both know that what Isiah wrote in IS 65 is confusing and does not portray the glimpses of what Heaven will really be. What I am trying to point out to you is that Isiah 65 and 66 cannot be trusted as being the true version of Heaven. How can you intelligently use IS 66:23 anymore than I could use anything about the new Earth in IS 65 or IS 65:24?
SDAs have a lot to learn, but they have been so conditioned with certain scripture (proof texts) that you refuse to consider texts that prove no one is under the ceremonial Laws of the old covenant which does include all of the old covenant Sabbaths. I can see that your are really confused with the scripture we are presenting. Take your SDA glasses off and read the WORD. Not only have we presented to you the truth, but there is a lot more to deal with concerning the SDA prophet and all of her writings. Ellen White has written so many things that have proven to be wrong. Most SDAs do not follow her "I saws" yet tell us her writings are equal to scripture. What a mess, oy.
