Will Trump's resounding and definitive win cause Democrats to reflect?

[Bradskii]

You only assign this to Trump and won’t discuss anyone else

I'm not making comparisons. Really, how many times does this need to be explained! Don't even try to excuse what he is by claiming others are just as bad.

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm not making comparisons. Really, how many times does this need to be explained! Don't even try to excuse what he is by claiming others are just as bad.

You’re practically giving everyone else a pass

 

[Bradskii]

You’re practically giving everyone else a pass

I'm not discussing anyone else. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Pointing out Trump's immorality doesn't excuse anyone else for doing anything else. And pointing out that someone else has done something else doesn't excuse him.

 

[Postvieww]

As I said there are two different realities. One is where he has married three times, had sex with a porn star when his second was pregnant, was recorded saying that he was justified in grabbing young women by the genitals and was found to have digitally raped a woman. Saying that it couldn't have been him because she 'wasn't his type'. That's one reality.

The other is that people will ignore all that plus much, much more and consider him a suitable person to represent their country. And where people will actually argue that he is not a misogynist.

So glad you do not vote in this country. What about Trumps past moral failures having no bearing on the man he is today do you not understand. If one were to judge your total character today by every failure over your entire life, how would you be judged? As a man Christian I believe in redemption, it seems apparent you do not understand.For someone from another country you seem heavily invested in trashing Trump while ignoring moral failures of many of his detractors.

 

[BPPLEE]

I'm not discussing anyone else. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Pointing out Trump's immorality doesn't excuse anyone else for doing anything else. And pointing out that someone else has done something else doesn't excuse him.

I think it’s relevant that he is held to a different standard

 

[ThisIsMe123]

So glad you do not vote in this country. What about Trumps past moral failures having no bearing on the man he is today

He's just as bad or even worse today than he was in the past, so....Trump's got that going for him.

 

[Postvieww]

He's just as bad or even worse today than he was in the past, so....Trump's got that going for him.

More than half of the country is not buying that narrative. Map Shows Trump's 2024 Reelection Victory with Red and Blue Counties?

 

[Bradskii]

So glad you do not vote in this country. What about Trumps past moral failures having no bearing on the man he is today do you not understand. If one were to judge your total character today by every failure over your entire life, how would you be judged? As a man Christian I believe in redemption...

I believe in repentance. He's never repented.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

“When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.’”

His 'little wine'? His 'little cracker'?

 

[zippy2006]

You only assign this to Trump and won’t discuss anyone else

Trump is certainly a moral scapegoat a la Luke 18:11.

 

[Postvieww]

I believe in repentance. He's never repented.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

“When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.’”

His 'little wine'? His 'little cracker'?

Almost ten years old give me a break. You have no idea where the man stands with God. Your opinion of Trump has no relevance to more than half of the country. God will judge him but for now God put him where he is so you should just accept the will of the voters and sit back and watch God use a man you detest.

 

[rjs330]

I wasn't talking about voters. I was talking about trump's daily dose of misinformation while in office. I was saying that Trump has an uncanny talent for spreading nutty conspiracy theories and mistruths.

Let me put this mathematically.

The set of people who are fooled by a given piece of Trump's misinformation is not identical to the set of Trump supporters. It excludes part of the set of Trump supporters, and it includes part of the set of people who are not Trump supporters.

This should be obvious.

Okay I give up.

 

[rjs330]

" Thou shall not use God's name in vain" .

I have no idea what you mean by that in this context.

 

[rjs330]

Mysogeny????? You are so out of touch with reality. Cruelty??? Care to explain? What do you know about his convictions? Immorality, it seems you have ignored the immorality of many of Trumps detractors. I didn’t vote for the Trump with the playboy PAST I voted for the man he is today who truly loves this country and has literally devoted the latter years of his life to service of his country. So save all of the rehashing of Trumps past it is a waste of time. Yes this Trump the man he is today will represent this country in spite of destructive liberal attitudes many spew on this forum.

He is so misogynistic that his campaign chief was a woman and he chose a woman to take part in making history by being the first woman Chief of Staff.

 

[rjs330]

I believe in repentance. He's never repented.

https://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html

“When I drink my little wine – which is about the only wine I drink – and have my little cracker, I guess that is a form of asking for forgiveness, and I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed,” he said. “I think in terms of ‘let’s go on and let’s make it right.’”

His 'little wine'? His 'little cracker'?

I know Brad is ignoring me, but I wanted to respond anyway.

I don't believe that you believe in repentance. You have utterly rejected the Christ as Lord and Savior. You continually speak against objective morality and believe in subjective morality.

You have no place or right to speak on repentance when morality is subjective and you don't believe in a God from whom forgiveness is sought or the Christ who preached repentance.

If you want to judge his actions be my guest. If you want to claim his actions were wrong, your subjective opinions are noted.

Has Trump sinned? Most assuredly. Has he repented? That is between him and a Christ who you reject.

You are free to believe a pronouns star if you wish. Many others don't find her credible. And I am sure Trump is not the same person he was 30 years ago. I know I'm not. But you are free to hold all the hatred in your heart that you wish.

 

[Maria Billingsley]

I have no idea what you mean by that in this context.

I hope you understand that God's commandment covers all forms of using His name in vain. In the case that I am referring to, here it is defined:

Using God's Name for Self-Gain: This involves using God's name to manipulate others, to solicit donations, or to promote one's own agenda.

 

[Postvieww]

Of course we will reflect. What I've been hearing is that it was the effect of inflation and working-class people suffering its aftereffects.

Apparently Great Britain switched to the Labour Party for the same reasons, but they were lucky, because it was the conservatives who had been in control and got the boot.

It's easy, I guess, to ignore the glaring, overwhelming, 110% true fact that inflation occurred all over the world, due to the end of the pandemic, supply chain issues, pent up demand, etc., etc. when some megalomanical demagogue says "It's Biden and Harris' fault." It wasn't. Their administration got inflation under control much more quickly---and I don't know how an anti-union, anti-minimum wage, anti-employee party is going to help those working class people.

Only 32% of the people thought the economy was going in the right direction. I'm not among them. Pulling out of an economic crisis that affected 100% of the world is going in the right direction. And I didn't see how throwing my hopes with a crass, vulgar, hate-filled, candidate whose speeches included sexually deviant pantomimes would help.

They will suffer for their foolishness. You will regret your terrible decision. Hopefully, there will be enough of a democracy left--or even enough of a planet left--for us to make a change.

The entire world is terrified. One of my children lives in Asia, and they are terrified that Trump will pull bases out of Japan, S. Korea, etc., allowing China to move on Taiwan, and Russia to continue its imperialistic rampages in Europe.

So will we still have a world in four years, when Netanyahu goes commando on Lebanon and Iran, China moves on Taiwan, Russia heads for Poland and beyond?

I am in my 70's. I have always worked to make our country a better place, and I may not be alive to see the upcoming devastation, especially if Medicare is tanked. I pray for my family and even for those whose shortsightedensss brought this devastation upon us.

Hindsight is 20-20. You will regret your decision 100 times over.

This just proves there is no reflection by Democrats as to why they failed so miserably. All we see see from many is backbiting and blaming everyone and everything while ignoring the real problems. It is POLICY, POLICY, POLICY that was rejected overwhelmingly by the American people. If Liberals could see past their wokeness they would realize the majority of Americans don't want men in locker rooms with their daughters, or their children indoctrinated with gender confusion, or paying for free college and sex changes, or crime in the streets ignored, or wide open borders with the human trafficking and drugs that brings. Enough is enough if liberals continue to think they can fool the American people into to buying what they are currently selling they will continue to lose. To all the liberals who still think they are smarter than Trump supporters it time to wake up and reflect on the error of your ways. PS Did I mention lawfare against Trump and supporters?

 

[Fantine]

This just proves there is no reflection by Democrats as to why they failed so miserably. All we see see from many is backbiting and blaming everyone and everything while ignore the real problems. It is POLICY, POLICY, POLICY that was rejected overwhelmingly by the American people. If Liberals could see past their wokeness they would realize the majority of Americans don't want men in locker rooms with their daughters, or their children indoctrinated with gender confusion, or paying for free college and sex changes, or crime in the streets ignored, or wide open borders with the human trafficking and drugs that brings. Enough is enough if liberals continue to think they can fool the American people into to buying what they are currently selling they will continue to lose. To all the liberals who still think they are smarter than Trump supporters it time to wake up and reflect on the error of your ways.

All I can say is if my roof is leaking (global inflation, immigration) I don't vote for someone to come and burn the house to the ground.
Voting for Trump is the textbook definition of the "cure" being worse than the cause.

 

[Always in His Presence]

I believe in repentance. He's never repented.

??? An Atheist that believe in turning from sin and living Righteously in honor of God?

 

[Always in His Presence]

All I can say is if my roof is leaking (global inflation, immigration) I don't vote for someone to come and burn the house to the ground.

But you support the person who cut a hole in your roof?

Voting for Trump is the textbook definition of the "cure" being worse than the cause.

Biden/Harris is the cause. You want to keep the cause?

 

[Mercy Shown]

Of course we will reflect. What I've been hearing is that it was the effect of inflation and working-class people suffering its aftereffects.

Apparently Great Britain switched to the Labour Party for the same reasons, but they were lucky, because it was the conservatives who had been in control and got the boot.

It's easy, I guess, to ignore the glaring, overwhelming, 110% true fact that inflation occurred all over the world, due to the end of the pandemic, supply chain issues, pent up demand, etc., etc. when some megalomanical demagogue says "It's Biden and Harris' fault." It wasn't. Their administration got inflation under control much more quickly---and I don't know how an anti-union, anti-minimum wage, anti-employee party is going to help those working class people.

Only 32% of the people thought the economy was going in the right direction. I'm not among them. Pulling out of an economic crisis that affected 100% of the world is going in the right direction. And I didn't see how throwing my hopes with a crass, vulgar, hate-filled, candidate whose speeches included sexually deviant pantomimes would help.

They will suffer for their foolishness. You will regret your terrible decision. Hopefully, there will be enough of a democracy left--or even enough of a planet left--for us to make a change.

The entire world is terrified. One of my children lives in Asia, and they are terrified that Trump will pull bases out of Japan, S. Korea, etc., allowing China to move on Taiwan, and Russia to continue its imperialistic rampages in Europe.

So will we still have a world in four years, when Netanyahu goes commando on Lebanon and Iran, China moves on Taiwan, Russia heads for Poland and beyond?

I am in my 70's. I have always worked to make our country a better place, and I may not be alive to see the upcoming devastation, especially if Medicare is tanked. I pray for my family and even for those whose shortsightedensss brought this devastation upon us.

Hindsight is 20-20. You will regret your decision 100 times over.

As this post testifies, they are not reflecting as much as they are deflecting. They are not capable of reflection yet. This is what this poster believed before the election and still what they believe after. And so it is.