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What is this ? :scratch:
Are you asking what Answers in Genesis is, or what my post is? If Answers in Genesis, their website states the following about biblical Creation which AiG stands for:

"Biblical creation is based on the Bible where God created the universe and everything in it as described in Genesis (Genesis 1:1-2:3 is the specific creation week though commonly creation means Genesis 1-11). The Creator did not need matter, large amounts of time, energy, or anything else. He created out of nothing in six literal normal-length days about six thousand years ago.

Biblical creation is not compatible with the belief that the world just happened through an extended, naturalistic, and chance process over many billions of years. Biblical creation upholds the Bible as God’s eyewitness account of actual creation events since God was the only one there to observe what happened at the very beginning.

In addition, biblical creationists do not view the Bible or the book of Genesis as a mythological or allegorical document. Instead, the Bible is rightly considered a historical document that records what actually happened and is the only true and real history."

Their website is Answers in Genesis I hope that helps.
 
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Are you asking what Answers in Genesis is, or what my post is? If Answers in Genesis, their website states the following about biblical Creation which AiG stands for:

"Biblical creation is based on the Bible where God created the universe and everything in it as described in Genesis (Genesis 1:1-2:3 is the specific creation week though commonly creation means Genesis 1-11). The Creator did not need matter, large amounts of time, energy, or anything else. He created out of nothing in six literal normal-length days about six thousand years ago.

Biblical creation is not compatible with the belief that the world just happened through an extended, naturalistic, and chance process over many billions of years. Biblical creation upholds the Bible as God’s eyewitness account of actual creation events since God was the only one there to observe what happened at the very beginning.

In addition, biblical creationists do not view the Bible or the book of Genesis as a mythological or allegorical document. Instead, the Bible is rightly considered a historical document that records what actually happened and is the only true and real history."

Their website is Answers in Genesis I hope that helps.

Very informative, but what does this have to do with scientists & astronauts believing in Genesis 1 ?
 
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Very informative, but what does this have to do with scientists & astronauts believing in Genesis 1 ?
Well you asked what it is. I assumed you were asking what Answers in Genesis is. Sorry if I misunderstood you.

As for what it has to do with scientists believing in Genesis 1, there are plenty of scientists who are associated with AiG and its firm stand on the truth of Genesis (hence its name).
 
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As for what it has to do with scientists believing in Genesis 1, there are plenty of scientists who are associated with AiG and its firm stand on the truth of Genesis (hence its name).

They can't do as to believe in God's creation you have to believe in all of God's words in Genesis 1 not just part of them.
 
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They can't do as to believe in God's creation you have to believe in all of God's words in Genesis 1 not just part of them.
But they do. Why do you imagine they don't? The whole reason for AiG's existence it that they fully believe Genesis.
 
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But they do. Why do you imagine they don't? The whole reason for AiG's existence it that they fully believe Genesis.

If they did then they would know that the sun, moon & all the stars orbit the earth on a daily basis, they and the clouds are the only things that move within the heavens & the stars have been giving the same constellations from the beginning of time. If the earth were moving this would be impossible.
And as for the earth rotating around the sun, this is just ludicrous.
 
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If they did then they would know that the sun, moon & all the stars orbit the earth on a daily basis, they and the clouds are the only things that move within the heavens & the stars have been giving the same constellations from the beginning of time. If the earth were moving this would be impossible.
And as for the earth rotating around the sun, this is just ludicrous.
But as I (and others) have said before, Genesis says nothing about whether the earth revolves on its axis, or orbits the sun, or, indeed, the shape of the earth (which I know you didn't mention in your post).
 
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But as I (and others) have said before, Genesis says nothing about whether the earth revolves on its axis, or orbits the sun, or, indeed, the shape of the earth (which I know you didn't mention in your post).

Instead of concentrating on what it doesn't say why not concentrate on what it does say ?
 
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If they did then they would know that the sun, moon & all the stars orbit the earth on a daily basis, they and the clouds are the only things that move within the heavens & the stars have been giving the same constellations from the beginning of time. If the earth were moving this would be impossible.
So where does it say that in Genesis 1?
You've done this before - you blast people for not believing Genesis 1 and a flat earth. When asked where flat earth is taught in Genesis 1 you have to back down and say, "oh, well it isn't."

I've said it before; I, and probably most people here, are Christians - born again, Spirit-filled, Bible-believing children of God who believe Genesis 1.
We also know that the earth is a globe.
We are still born again, Spirit-filled, Bible-believing children of God. One does not affect, or negate, the other.

Doesn't matter whether you accept, understand or believe that, or not; it's true.
You will see globe earthers in heaven - not condemned, not deceived or shamed for their beliefs. Saved and serving God just as you will be.
You might as well accept that.
 
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So where does it say that in Genesis 1

15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

We also know that the earth is a globe.

Are you sure about this ?

You might as well accept that.

I will only ever accept the truth to that which is God's word.

Like I said to David, instead of looking for what is not in the Bible try looking at what is in the Bible.
 
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Instead of concentrating on what it doesn't say why not concentrate on what it does say ?
I usually would, but in this case I was answering your post where you were saying that if the AiG scientists believed Genesis, they wouldn't believe that the earth revolves on its axis or orbits the sun. That is why I said that Genesis makes no mention of these things. Yes, I could have said that Genesis teaches that God created everything out of nothing in six days, and that AiG scientists believe that, but saying that wouldn't have answered what you posted.
 
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I usually would, but in this case I was answering your post where you were saying that if the AiG scientists believed Genesis, they wouldn't believe that the earth revolves on its axis or orbits the sun. That is why I said that Genesis makes no mention of these things. Yes, I could have said that Genesis teaches that God created everything out of nothing in six days, and that AiG scientists believe that, but saying that wouldn't have answered what you posted.

So do you agree with what God wrote in Genesis 1 ? You see David there is no mention anywhere in the Bible that the earth is a globe & rotates around the sun.

What the Bible does say is that the sun stopped, it is a circle & it is unmovable & that in the end days the moon will no longer give off her light & all the stars will fall from heaven, so who am I too believe, God or man ?
 
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15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
Sorry, the words "flat earth" are, where, in that sentence?
Are you sure about this ?
Yep.

I will only ever accept the truth to that which is God's word.
No, you once believed the earth was a globe; then you didn't. Then, only a short while ago, you did again. Now you don't.
And the reason you changed your mind and went from saying "I think Flat Earth is a load of nonsense" to "yay, I'm back on track, the earth is flat" was because of a video clip you found on YouTube. You were not reading Genesis and found a Hebrew word which changed your perspective. You were not reading Bible commentaries, learning how to understand the Bible or listening to scientists talking about the facts and their discoveries - you found something on YouTube. And that was enough to make you forget your resolve to ask for God's help in accepting a globe earth, and to go back on your prayer where you said 'sorry' for doubting the moon landings.

God's word does not teach the shape of his creation; that is not its purpose. It tells us about God's character, his will, his work, his love, salvation, provision and so on.
Like I said to David, instead of looking for what is not in the Bible try looking at what is in the Bible.
I am perfectly aware of what is in the Bible - the shape of the earth, isn't.
 
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So do you agree with what God wrote in Genesis 1 ? You see David there is no mention anywhere in the Bible that the earth is a globe & rotates around the sun.
Nor does the Bible teach that the earth is a flat, 40,000 foot deep circle with 4 corners - a shape which does not even exist, but which you seem to spend a lot of time defending.
Not only that, those of us who don't accept it are apparently "deceived", though you can't explain how.
 
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So do you agree with what God wrote in Genesis 1 ? You see David there is no mention anywhere in the Bible that the earth is a globe & rotates around the sun.

What the Bible does say is that the sun stopped, it is a circle & it is unmovable & that in the end days the moon will no longer give off her light & all the stars will fall from heaven, so who am I too believe, God or man ?
Yes I do agree with Genesis 1. It doesn't mention the shape of the earth or whether it orbits the sun. As for the sun stopping, first, that isn't in Genesis, which was what we were discussing, and second, it is no different to us, whether or not we believe that the earth rotates on its axis, talking about "sunrise" and "sunset." The sun and moon no longer giving light, and stars falling, has nothing to do with the earth's shape, or whether it revolves and orbits the sun.
 
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So do you agree with what God wrote in Genesis 1 ? You see David there is no mention anywhere in the Bible that the earth is a globe & rotates around the sun.
There is no mention anywhere in the Bible that it isn't a globe and doesn't rotate while orbiting the sun.
What the Bible does say is that the sun stopped, it is a circle & it is unmovable & that in the end days the moon will no longer give off her light & all the stars will fall from heaven, so who am I too believe, God or man ?
I'd say be careful not to misinterpret God's Word
 
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The sun and moon no longer giving light, and stars falling, has nothing to do with the earth's shape, or whether it revolves and orbits the sun.

No but it does give us a inclination that someone is lying when it comes too space travel & somehow I don't think it's God.
 
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Not only that, those of us who don't accept it are apparently "deceived", though you can't explain how.

Well if you can't see it by now you never will.
 
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