Wicca

[Smilin]

Hi everybody!!!

Thanks for the warm welcome!!!

Thanks Plan 9 for the kind words!!!

Plan 9 mentioned that Smilin was Cherokee, I'm Santee Sioux. I'm only 1/16th, but I have a "blood certificate" stating that the Sioux nation recognizes me as one of their people.

Yep (only 1/2 though). And since the Sioux and Cherokee descended
from a common clan... we are brother and sister by heritage.

Looking forward to more conversation with you...

~Smilin

 

[Smilin]

I think I may have discovered the weirdest way to meditate ever.

Wanna bet? What's 'weird' to some is tradition to others.

The only thing that terrifies me is that the librarian is going to want that Gershwin CD back, sooner or later. Then what am I gonna do?

So that's your phobia?

 

[spinto]

Kira Faye: I wish you would not fall into that trap, witch craft in any form is going to be wrong. That is just like the supporters of homosexuality saying that since it isn't specifically mentioned in the new tastament that it cant possibly be wrong in this day and time. I will research this for you.

Hmmm, that would be the same as me saying, CHRISTIAN teachings in any form would be wrong. She is not looking to be converted. She is only looking to get accurate referance.

Witch craft is beyond your understanding if you blanket all of it with a plain old WRONG. YOU should do some research yourself and find out what you can about wiccan and PEGAN beliefs. Next time you put up a CHRISTMAS TREE, might what to remember what I said here.


--Spinto.

 

[LADY DI]

Yep (only 1/2 though). And since the Sioux and Cherokee descended
from a common clan... we are brother and sister by heritage.

Looking forward to more conversation with you...

~Smilin

Hi Smilin!!!

You taught me something new, I didn't know that the Cherokee and the Sioux descended from a common clan.
What can you tell me about it? I would really like to know!!!
I'm trying to figure out my ancestry on the Sioux side. I've gotten two different geneologies. Do you know of a organization that might be able to help me?
Well I look forward to more conversations with you also!!!
Blessings
Di

 

[Smilin]

Hi Smilin!!!

HALLOOOOOO DI...

Before we begin...and to stay on topic, some Native American traditional beliefs
were labeled 'witchcraft'. (have to abide by the rules or you get hammered...trust me... )

You taught me something new, I didn't know that the Cherokee and the Sioux descended from a common clan.
What can you tell me about it? I would really like to know!!!

Most of the information comes from archeologists. Give me a bit
to review some of the research.

I'm trying to figure out my ancestry on the Sioux side. I've gotten two different geneologies. Do you know of a organization that might be able to help me?

Geneology is passed through the female. That is the first step. Next, you might
try my web link once you find a name to see if it's in the registry.
Happy Hunting! I've helped quite a few others here as well. Let me know
on your progress.

In the meantime, I'll dig out what history I can find and consult with a few others.

 

[LADY DI]

Hi Smilin!!!!

Its good to hear from you!!!!

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HALLOOOOOO DI...

Before we begin...and to stay on topic, some Native American traditional beliefs
were labeled 'witchcraft'. (have to abide by the rules or you get hammered...trust me... )



Most of the information comes from archeologists. Give me a bit
to review some of the research.

Personally I dont believe that native american beliefs were "witchcralt", just a different set of beliefs. Its too easy to label something "witchcraft". The early european settlers labeled it that because anything that was not of their religious traditions were then labeled "witchcraft".

Take your time on the research!!!

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Geneology is passed through the female. That is the first step. Next, you might
try my web link once you find a name to see if it's in the registry.
Happy Hunting! I've helped quite a few others here as well. Let me know
on your progress.

In the meantime, I'll dig out what history I can find and consult with a few others.
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I will check out your website this weekend, when I have alot of time to go over it. I took a quick look last night, theres alot of stuff there!!!
Well look forward to hearing from you!!
Di

 

[ravenwolf]

The early european settlers labeled it that because anything that was not of their religious traditions were then labeled "witchcraft".

Im not saying you think this but what you said made me think of the fact that this is also what many christians do(not all) to anyone who is not of their faith, they label them satanist or demon worshippers.
~ravenwolf

 

[Smilin]

Im not saying you think this but what you said made me think of the fact that this is also what many christians do(not all) to anyone who is not of their faith, they label them satanist or demon worshippers.
~ravenwolf

EXACTLY!
Without first learning that some of us view Satan as a Christian
invention, or simply a fictitious persona elevated in status over
time by superstitions, religous agendas, and hollywood movies.

ravenwolf... you carry two totem animals joined as one...
Did you choose that name intentionally? and do you know
what it represents?

 

[Smilin]

Hi Smilin!!!!

Its good to hear from you!!!!


Personally I dont believe that native american beliefs were "witchcralt", just a different set of beliefs. Its too easy to label something "witchcraft". The early european settlers labeled it that because anything that was not of their religious traditions were then labeled "witchcraft".

Take your time on the research!!!

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Thus, the paranoia that led to the Salem witch trials and the slaughter
of innocence due to two females experiencing psychological hysteria.

Imagine the early Puritans if they had experienced 'flash photography
polaroid cameras'.... SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!

I will check out your website this weekend, when I have alot of time to go over it. I took a quick look last night, theres alot of stuff there!!!

Well look forward to hearing from you!!
Di

Thank you and I am only a participant in it's creation and maintenance.
Our site is the hard work of many people. Take your time and ask
questions as you see fit. I've helped others trace their Native American
ancesters. It would be an honor to help you (or any others) as well.

It's one of the few constructive things with my time I do here.

I gave up debating science with the religiously blinded hovindnites...

 

[Flavius]

I had a bad encounter on another forum, and I just want some "lit hearted" conversation!!!

Ok somebody done messed with Lady di,Jus point them out sweety,I got my size 12 ropers on and us Texas boys don't cotton to people offending our girls.We don't play that way in the South,humph,now I'm mad.

If I can't get to them,I'll get one of these Wiccan fellas to put a spell on them.Give him a rabbit head or somthin.

I'll call Plan9 and she'll go borg on their butt.

I'm also a quarter Cherrokee,so it could go either way.lookin for some new scalps.

 

[LADY DI]

Ok somebody done messed with Lady di,Jus point them out sweety,I got my size 12 ropers on and us Texas boys don't cotton to people offending our girls.We don't play that way in the South,humph,now I'm mad.

If I can't get to them,I'll get one of these Wiccan fellas to put a spell on them.Give him a rabbit head or somthin.

I'll call Plan9 and she'll go borg on their butt.

I'm also a quarter Cherrokee,so it could go either way.lookin for some new scalps.

Hi Flavius!!!!!!

I'm so glad to see you!!!!
I thought you left CF. I'm so glad you didn't!!!!
I hadent seen you around for awhile, thats why I thought that.
I dont visit the forum we met in any more, so I'm glad to find you somewhere else.
I hope to talk to more.
Keep in touch
Di

 

[LADY DI]

Im not saying you think this but what you said made me think of the fact that this is also what many christians do(not all) to anyone who is not of their faith, they label them satanist or demon worshippers.
~ravenwolf

Hi ravenwolf!!!

No, I dont think this way, otherwise I wouldn't be here!!!!

 

[ravenwolf]

ravenwolf... you carry two totem animals joined as one...
Did you choose that name intentionally? and do you know
what it represents?

i actually chose this name for this site cuz someone else had my name "dragomstarr"..which is also just an internet name....not for my own Spirit name. i havent met my totem yet...i think when the time is ready i will, and when the time is ready i will know my Spirit name. i have always been drawn to the wolf...spiritually drawn...ever since i was a child....that is my connection with the wolf...i dont know if it is my totem but i know i have a connection to them...as for the raven, to me it symbolises the hidden things of my unconsciose, my shadow....which is )to me) part of the spiritaul path to face and accept your shadow and i see the raven as a symbol of that venture into the unlnown....as for those two animals both being conjoined , i dont know that that represents..........but those are what those animals mean to me and what they represent for me.
~ravenwolf

 

[ravenwolf]

Hi ravenwolf!!!

No, I dont think this way, otherwise I wouldn't be here!!!!

Hi Lady DI,
well, in that case I wish there were more Christians like you Its nice to find Christians that are not closeminded and bigotrous.
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[Flavius]

Hi Flavius!!!!!!

I'm so glad to see you!!!!
I thought you left CF. I'm so glad you didn't!!!!
I hadent seen you around for awhile, thats why I thought that.
I dont visit the forum we met in any more, so I'm glad to find you somewhere else.
I hope to talk to more.
Keep in touch
Di

I never left,I just left the forum we met in,I feel kinda embarraced to talk to them people anymore,Dont get me wrong,there are some really cool people there and I can't think of anyone to say bad things about,all very intelligent people it seems.I just have a way of rubbing people wrong sometimes.

I never realize when I do it because I think most people believe like me but nobody does.Anyway,what I remember about you is that you have a Monica Louinsky hairdoo but it's blond like Princess Di and that you are a very sweet person,somebody that would dance with me a fast two step,twirling so fast that we might fall but you wouldn't hold it against me,our knees would heal at the same time after the fall and we would have that in common.I always try to pull that scab off too quick.That's why I like Plan9,she keeps me twirling and if I fall she picks me up.

 

[LADY DI]

I never left,I just left the forum we met in,I feel kinda embarraced to talk to them people anymore,Dont get me wrong,there are some really cool people there and I can't think of anyone to say bad things about,all very intelligent people it seems.I just have a way of rubbing people wrong sometimes.

I dont think you rub people the wrong way. I had always enjoyed you point of view!!!
It would be boring if everyone thought the same. Yes, there were a few cool people there.

I never realize when I do it because I think most people believe like me but nobody does

I've come across that myself. I've posted something and then get the "smack-down"!!!!
I'm learning too, that there are so many differences of opinion!!!

Anyway,what I remember about you is that you have a Monica Louinsky hairdoo but it's blond like Princess Di and that you are a very sweet person,somebody that would dance with me a fast two step,twirling so fast that we might fall but you wouldn't hold it against me,our knees would heal at the same time after the fall and we would have that in common.I always try to pull that scab off too quick.That's why I like Plan9,she keeps me twirling and if I fall she picks me up.

Youre sweet!!! I like when you desribe what people look like. But I dont look anything like that!!
Picture someone who is 5'2, long dark auburn hair , green eyes and fair skin. I sound like I might look Irish, but people think Im spanish!!!
Oh, and the dancing thing. I cant DANCE!!! My husband loves to dance, but I feel like a big dork out there on the dance floor!!!
So Plan 9, is going to have to be your dance partner!!!
She's a great friend!!! I consider her my best friend here!!!
Well I hope to talk to you more!!!
DI

 

[LADY DI]

i actually chose this name for this site cuz someone else had my name "dragomstarr"..which is also just an internet name....not for my own Spirit name. i havent met my totem yet...i think when the time is ready i will, and when the time is ready i will know my Spirit name. i have always been drawn to the wolf...spiritually drawn...ever since i was a child....that is my connection with the wolf...i dont know if it is my totem but i know i have a connection to them...as for the raven, to me it symbolises the hidden things of my unconsciose, my shadow....which is )to me) part of the spiritaul path to face and accept your shadow and i see the raven as a symbol of that venture into the unlnown....as for those two animals both being conjoined , i dont know that that represents..........but those are what those animals mean to me and what they represent for me.
~ravenwolf

Greetings!!!

I'd like to know how one finds their totem? And does it have to be a real animal or can it be a mythological animal like a unicorn, dragon or even a phoenix?

 

[ravenwolf]

I'd like to know how one finds their totem? And does it have to be a real animal or can it be a mythological animal like a unicorn, dragon or even a phoenix?

Hi You can use a guided meditation or travel to the astral plane consciously. Im assuming you dont know what that is so I'll explain....This is a nonphysical plane..the one where we go when we dream...when we dream we go there unconsciosly but when we astral travel we maintane our consciousness so that we can be aware instead of in a dream and there we can meet totems as well as dragons, unicorns, angels and other non-worldly creatures. But I am not sure that they themselves sreve as totems.... I sometimes think you can know intuitively...like how I am spiritually connected to the wolf...but I still need to work on my intuition and trusting it, so I am not sure if the wolf is my totem or not...
Blessings
~ravenwolf

 

[Cerridwen]

Hey~

Generally, one's totem animal is simply an animal one feels a close connection with. I don't mean just an animal that you like, like a cute little dog or cat(although it can be one of those), but an animal that seems to "speak" to you, that you seem to connect with on a spiritual level. An animal that maybe you notice a lot, that comes around you often. Pay attention to what happens in your life around the times that a particular animal crosses your path. They can be messengers, guides, protectors, or they can remind you about things in your life. Also, like Ravenwolf said, you can figure out who your totem is when you walk the astral, or try lucid dreaming. Maybe you have a particular animal companion in your dreams? Or maybe you "become" a particular animal? I don't know so much about mythological creatures being totems, since generally a totem is an animal that actually exists on this physical plane. Although you may have a spirit guide or something that you picture as a dragon or a unicorn. I'll try to do a bit more research on it for you.

Love & Blessings, Cerridwen*

 

[ravenwolf]

Thanks Cerridwen,
I guess that would make the wolf a totem for me. I am still learning to completely trust my intuition . Even though its always right , its still hard to learn to completely trust it.
Blessings
~ravenwolf