Why would they lie?

[Pete Harcoff]

For all those people here who think evolution is wrong, a myth, or whatever, why would so many scientists say it's true?

I mean, is it part of some anti-religious conspiracy to rid the world of God? Is it part of the New World order conspiracy to reduce the world's population to 5 billion (ala Hovind)? Or is it they are secretly perpetuating the myth of evolution so they can line their pockets with research grants and live the high life?

Really, what is the motivation of these scientists, anyway?

 

[Brimshack]

DUDE!!!!

(Shhhh…)

 

[arab4christ]

God gives humans a brain. They can only use 25% of it. They try to answer so many questions in this universe including how it was made. This is what they can come up with. Its not their fault their brains aren't able to fully grasp God's intelligance

God bless

a4c

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
Why would they lie?

Why do dogs bark? Why do cats meow? Because that is there nature. Why do liars lie? That is their nature.

1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?

According to the Eastons Bible Dictionary: To believe that "Jesus is the Christ" is to believe that he is the Anointed, the Messiah of the prophets, the Saviour sent of God, that he was, in a word, what he claimed to be.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by arab4christ
God gives humans a brain. They can only use 25% of it. They try to answer so many questions in this universe including how it was made. This is what they can come up with. Its not their fault their brains aren't able to fully grasp God's intelligance

God bless

a4c

So... basically we're all stupid. Yay us!

 

[Outspoken]

"For all those people here who think evolution is wrong, a myth, or whatever, why would so many scientists say it's true?"

Great question. People can believe things that aren't true or are not informed enough about it. Maybe the evidience we have is incomplete and thus gives us a false conclusion.

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by JohnR7
Why do dogs bark? Why do cats meow? Because that is there nature. Why do liars lie? That is their nature.

They're liars because they lie, huh? Oh vey.

Originally posted by JohnR7
1 John 2:22  Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ?
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And all those Christian scientists who happen to believe in evolution? What about them?

That really wasn't much of an answer...

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by Outspoken
Great question. People can believe things that aren't true or are not informed enough about it. Maybe the evidience we have is incomplete and thus gives us a false conclusion.

True. But the point is, we're talking about people who ARE informed. As a matter of fact, we're talking about the people who are the MOST informed on the subject. If scientists from around the world, in all different cultures, languages, religions, etc, can all reach the same conclusion about evolutionary theory being "true"... Why would they lie about it? Especially if evolutionary theory is as easily disproven as some people would like to think?

 

[Outspoken]

"we're talking about people who ARE informed. "

No, you misunderstand. They are informed according the the present time yes, but that might not be enough when dealing with this topic. I was talking in relation to the actual answer, not to other people.

"If scientists from around the world, in all different cultures, languages, religions, etc, can all reach the same conclusion about evolutionary theory being "true"... "

Just because there is a mass believing it doesn't make it true

 

[Humanista]

Originally posted by arab4christ
God gives humans a brain. They can only use 25% of it. They try to answer so many questions in this universe including how it was made. This is what they can come up with. Its not their fault their brains aren't able to fully grasp God's intelligance

God bless

a4c

That humans only use a fraction of their brain is an urban myth.

I used to assume it was true too, because everyone repeats it. But it's NOT true! 



http://www.snopes.com/index.html

Type in brain and it will take you to the Ten Percent Myth

 

[Orihalcon]

it is not true. humans use only 10% of their brain- at any given time. if humans used 100% at once, it would be a complete overload. like applying a huge electric jolt to a computer chip to get every circuit conducting a current at once.

 

[Humanista]

Originally posted by Outspoken
"we're talking about people who ARE informed. "

No, you misunderstand. They are informed according the the present time yes, but that might not be enough when dealing with this topic. I was talking in relation to the actual answer, not to other people.

"If scientists from around the world, in all different cultures, languages, religions, etc, can all reach the same conclusion about evolutionary theory being "true"... "

Just because there is a mass believing it doesn't make it true

It's more than a "mass believing". They don't take it "on faith".

The scientific method has a pretty good track record for discovering how the natural world operates. If it didn't, you wouldn't have a computer to use or antibiotics to cure you from disease.

Science is based on gathering data and interpreting it in a proscribed way whose purpose is to eliminate chance, prejudice and fraud. It's why experiments must be repeatable and ideas are peer-reviewed.

Do mistakes ever happen? Of course!But nothing that would overturn the entire field.

 Evolution is one of the most robust theories in all of science---it explains how life on this planet changed over time, supported by a mountain of facts.(FActs being the world's data, such as fossils) No other explanation comes close. Before the human genome was unraveled, and before we knew much about DNA, the "tree of life" was laid out, and now our genetic material almost PRECISELY echoes what science said it would.

You may choose to think the scientific method is fatally flawed or a fabric of deception but scientists know it to be reliable and impartial.

 

[Humanista]

Originally posted by Orihalcon
it is not true. humans use only 10% of their brain- at any given time. if humans used 100% at once, it would be a complete overload. like applying a huge electric jolt to a computer chip to get every circuit conducting a current at once.

Did you read the urban myth page?

What scientific evidence do you have that humans only use 10%?

Are you sure you are not just repeating what you've always "heard"?

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
And all those Christian scientists who happen to believe in evolution? What about them?

Christian scientists? Do you mean like Darwin?

A lot of science is just raw data that people really don't know what to do with. We need to find a practical application. In order to do that, you have to look at all the options and possible combinations.

Our job is to help people to become what God intended them to be. When we try to clone people in our image, we may find ourselves trying to put a round peg into a square hole. We want to promote growth and matureity, not hinder it.

 

 

[JohnR7]

Originally posted by Orihalcon
humans use only 10% of their brain- at any given time. if humans used 100% at once, it would be a complete overload.

Are you talking about before or after they have had their morning coffee.

 

[kaotic]

Orihalcon, and Humanista, look at this site.

http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by JohnR7
Christian scientists? Do you mean like Darwin?

My point is, you can't pigeonhole a group of people based on which scientific theories they subscribe to. Some Christians accept and work with evolutionary theory, others do not.

A lot of science is just raw data that people really don't know what to do with. We need to find a practical application. In order to do that, you have to look at all the options and possible combinations.

And after 150 years of looking at the data, the currently theory of evolution is the best model they've come up with to explain the diversity of life on the planet, where all these fossils came from, etc, etc. Current evolutionary theory is a consequence of the evidence, not the other way around. Yet, there are those who will claim that evidence is "mis-interpreted". Well, if all that evidence is so easily mis-interpreted, and if the theory of evolution has so many problems with it (as some Creationist organizations would have you believe), then why is the theory still going strong? What could possibly be the motivation of all these scientists to keep promoting such a theory? Money? Fame? A global conspiracy ascending to the highest levels of the collective world governments, and rooted in the very existance of every man, woman and child?

Our job is to help people to become what God intended them to be. When we try to clone people in our image, we may find ourselves trying to put a round peg into a square hole. We want to promote growth and matureity, not hinder it.
 

And trying to discredit evolutionary theory helps this cause how exactly?

 

[Pete Harcoff]

Originally posted by Outspoken
No, you misunderstand. They are informed according the the present time yes, but that might not be enough when dealing with this topic. I was talking in relation to the actual answer, not to other people.

Yes, scientific theories are adapted, and sometimes succeeded as newer and better evidence, methods, research, and so on, is brought forth.

That's not the point.

We have over 150 years of collective research "proving" evolution (please note I quoted the word proving). And newer and better evidence is brought forth every day. Yet, if all these creationist sites are true and evolution is just one big hoax, then the scientific community has a LOT to answer for.

So why would they do it? Why perpetuate the theory of evolution? What's the motivation?

Just because there is a mass believing it doesn't make it true

True. People tend to become progressively dumber in large groups.

But that's besides the point. I trust that the people that work with the evidence for evolution on a daily basis probably know more than your average Tom, Dick and Harry. So, I put a margin of faith that those people, collectively, are telling me the truth about their findings. Yet, some individuals will tell you that the theory has holes big enough to fly a 747 through. Why would the scientists of the world keep promoting such a theory if it's so easily disproven?

 

[LightBearer]

Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
Some Christians accept and work with evolutionary theory,

Not so.  Christ was there at the creation.  He confirmed that God created Adam and Eve as humans, male and female not monkey and ape.  If you subscribe to evolutionary theory then you are calling christ a liar or at least misinformed which would make him a pretty poor source of truth and therefore unreliable at best.  How can someone claim to be christian and yet not believe or follow what Christ taught and believed.  Go figure.

 

[Freodin]

Originally posted by LightBearer
Not so.  Christ was there at the creation.  He confirmed that God created Adam and Eve as humans, male and female not monkey and ape.  If you subscribe to evolutionary theory then you are calling christ a liar or at least misinformed which would make him a pretty poor source of truth and therefore unreliable at best.  How can someone claim to be christian and yet not believe or follow what Christ taught and believed.  Go figure.

Now where did Jesus ever say that?