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Why would God create a flawed creation?

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Gottservant

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Now im really interested in you.
I want to learn about you.
Are you god?

What do you think God will tell you about me? That you can't learn from Christ?

The scriptures tell you about believers, you do not need me to tell you who I am.
 
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What do you think God will tell you about me? That you can't learn from Christ?

The scriptures tell you about believers, you do not need me to tell you who I am.

I dont know you personally.

I dont think god will tell me anything about you. Thats why I need you to
 
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You should realize that if scripture nor God can tell you nothing, neither can I

Ill be perfectly honest with meaNing no disrespect.

I think you dont know where your at. You made a whole religion by picking what you wanted and compiling it into nonsense.

If I cant be told, shouldnt you try?
 
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Ill be perfectly honest with meaNing no disrespect.

I think you dont know where your at. You made a whole religion by picking what you wanted and compiling it into nonsense.

If I cant be told, shouldnt you try?

So you see, you have started from a position of a lack of faith and assumed that is where I am coming

But in fact, I have no need of doing anything and can still worship God - which is the point

Don't presume to understand my religion if I haven't given it to you
 
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So you see, you have started from a position of a lack of faith and assumed that is where I am coming

But in fact, I have no need of doing anything and can still worship God - which is the point

Don't presume to understand my religion if I haven't given it to you

You havent really explained your religion. So explain
 
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He is not apathetic, or else He would not come in the fleshly body in the Name of Jesus Christ to deliver mankind from suffering.

The suffering he allowed to happen, but with his omnipotence could have prevented. That doesn't sound very loving to me.

He can stop suffering, and He wanted to do it in a way human can understand (not through some miracles that no human eye can see and no human mind can perceive), at the same time, allowing humans to be participants in choosing good over evil so suffering eventually stops. The current world perfectly allows for this to work, provided humans stop rebelling against Him and start becoming participants in His salvation plan (ie. through accepting Jesus Christ and believing His Gospel).

I think most people would say a world where there was no suffering to begin with is preferable to one with suffering. If we think about the father/child analogy that some Christians are fond of using, your god appears quite neglectful and unloving. I think if I had the power to create a world without suffering, I would...
 
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The suffering he allowed to happen, but with his omnipotence could have prevented. That doesn't sound very loving to me.



I think most people would say a world where there was no suffering to begin with is preferable to one with suffering. If we think about the father/child analogy that some Christians are fond of using, your god appears quite neglectful and unloving. I think if I had the power to create a world without suffering, I would...

Well arent you special. You would do things differently then god. How are you in a position to question god?
 
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Well arent you special. You would do things differently then god. How are you in a position to question god?

I would do things differently than flawed human mythology about a fictional character called "God".


eudaimonia,

Mark
 
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