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Something tells me knowing the answer still would not persuade you to believe.
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Meaning that he knowingly created Satan, knowingly engineered the circumstances that would lead to mankind's fall, and knowingly created certain individuals who would ultimately be destined for Hell. The question then is this: why would an omnibenevolent God knowingly do all this?
Something tells me knowing the answer still would not persuade you to believe.
Do you know the answer?
Yes, God did those things to create the best possible world.
No He can't just do what He wants here. God can't do anything on earth unless His people pray. He wants to heal everyone, but He needs His people to step out and heal people in His Name and someone wanting to receive His healing.
Yes, God did those things to create the best possible world.
Do you think there is any praying going on for the 9 million children who die each year before the age of five and many in suffering until death?
Do you think there is any praying going on for the 9 million children who die each year before the age of five and many in suffering until death?
If he is all good, why would he? He's devised a punishment for those who choose wrongly, and he already knows exactly who is going to choose wrongly. It isn't even a "test". He knows the outcome with certainty.
What would be gained from even asking them the question? He already knows the answer. He knew the answer before he even created them.
Not enough and most christians don't even know they have the authority to heal the sick. If Jesus could function like He did when He was on earth through every believer there would be much more believers who did the same and a lot less suffering. But still there will be people who don't want Him and start a war.
How could you know the content and quality of other people's prayers?
he gave free will, free will has to be the right to chose to what ever you please, if you do not give them that choice then they have no free will.
I do not believe he creates people to believe, he could have but he does not, creating with the will to chose to believe or not limits his power over his creation by his choice.
as I said all decisions have consequences, to live with God is made by believing in him, to chose to not believe on him is to chose eternity without God.
did the judge who sends the man to jail or for a death sentence responsible for the crime that was committed?
They pray fervently in South Korea, half of the country is saved. Here if you have a church of 30 people 6 attend the prayer meeting once a week and one falls asleep during it. Jonathan Edwards prayed all day long with groanings, the woman he hired his apartment from thought he was nuts, yet Wales got saved.How could you know the content and quality of other people's prayers?
The effect of prayer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvxWl7jXr0
They pray fervently in South Korea, half of the country is saved. Here if you have a church of 30 people 6 attend the prayer meeting once a week and one falls asleep during it. Jonathan Edwards prayed all day long with groanings, the woman he hired his apartment from thought he was nuts, yet Wales got saved.
The effect of prayer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvxWl7jXr0
You didn't answer my question.
9 million children die each year and many in an agonizing death before the age of five.
How do you know the quality and quantity of the prayer coming form the parents and families of these children who die suffering?
You didn't answer my question.
9 million children die each year and many in an agonizing death before the age of five.
How do you know the quality and quantity of the prayer coming form the parents and families of these children who die suffering?
Oh okay, maybe they don't even believe or they're christian and don't know how to pray. John G. Lake first saw half of his family die, because they prayed, but believed it was God's will. When he found out which authority he had and that God wanted to heal and it was a lie that it wasn't His will, thousands were healed.
Oh okay, maybe they don't even believe or they're christian and don't know how to pray. John G. Lake first saw half of his family die, because they prayed, but believed it was God's will. When he found out which authority he had and that God wanted to heal and it was a lie that it wasn't His will, thousands were healed.
Does that explanation really work for you?
he gave free will, free will has to be the right to chose to what ever you please, if you do not give them that choice then they have no free will.
An omnipotent god could have created humans with the free will to choose to cause suffering, but without the propensity to cause suffering.
It seems like I keep repeating myself...
It seems like you are grasping at straws because God CAN/COULD create what ever He wants and wanted. Someone could come up with 100 scenarios.
The Bible really is about what a Christian CAN do with their life. So many think it's a do not do this, do not do that and it does have some of that, but most of the Word is about living a spiritual life.
Those who are not God's do not understand spiritual.
You keep missing the point, as this analogy shows. The judge in this scenario presumably isn't omniscient; he didn't know that the person committing the crime would, in fact, commit the crime. Knowing for certain that he would commit a crime offers the judge the opportunity to prevent the crime from ever eventuating. Does preventing a crime from happening violate the free will of a would-be criminal? If that's the case, then why do we even have laws and people who enforce laws? Aren't we violating people's free will to behave however they want to?
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