• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Why Vaccinations Shouldn't be Optional

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
Someone citing baseless conspiracy theories deserves nothing more. People are dying due to preventable diseases because of this nonsense.
You and no one else either have ever proven anything with such empty pharma praise, honoring disastrous anti-life corporations instead of honoring YHVH SOVEREIGN CREATOR.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
The conspiracy section is that way -->
Good point (follow the money) (yet , sorry, even that is not possible for most)...

Just seek the truth and find out what is the focus, the goal, the aim, of ALL corporations; without heart; without truth; without soul; without conscience; with more money than you could dream of ! Go slow though - remember it is devastating and embarrassing when the truth is finally realized - all their lives most people never find out...
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private

Uh-huh. I'll just keep getting my vaccines and avoid getting smallpox and polio. Good luck with your search for truth though.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
Uh-huh. I'll just keep getting my vaccines and avoid getting smallpox and polio. Good luck with your search for truth though.
YHVH Says in HIS WORD He HATES it when His people trust /call on/ lady luck,
so no, no luck sought nor needed. A few others , as written, and I found the truth by sheer grace , after being deceived like everyone else as YHVH'S WORD says in Revelation 18. ("pharmacy will deceive the whole world")
As you said, you keep what you choose instead of seeking Truth, and see what happens. (not at all what you were taught, or hope , or expect)
Later, if you seek the Truth, and keep seeking the Truth, (if it is not too late),
you will find it, as God Promises this in His Word.
If you don't... well, In Scripture it is written the results.... (in Revelation, et al)
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private

Let's see how helpful your scripture is when you get hepatitis B or the chickenpox.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
Let's see how helpful your scripture is when you get hepatitis B or the chickenpox.
That sounds like the party line, or whatever.....
in case you haven't ever found out, getting chickenpox as a child gives lifetime immunity BETTER than any manmade toxin or method does. (children who get the toxins often have terrible effects later when they get the disease!)...
And in case you haven't ever found out, the AMA clinics have been curing hepatitis for the last few years (it's been widely publicized for some time now)
although what they don't tell is the cost under the AMA is many thousands of dollars,
while the cost of the herbs the AMA's pill is derived from is under $50 ... go figure...
That's how it is and has been for most things the last hundred or so years...
so keep on trusting the flesh, if you CHOOSE TO,
or trust God through faith and grace in JESUS, if HE permits, to learn what is true and right and good. (NOT what men say - remember as written in Scripture NOT to put your trust in man if you want to please God) .
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
Let's see how helpful your scripture is when you get hepatitis B or the chickenpox.
"Let's see".....
How helpful SCRIPTURE (GOD'S WORD) IS !
Don't you ever hope to receive eternal life ?! Oh, no, just checked and you don't.... (from the label under your id).... well....
remember men cannot give you anything good eternally;
God's Word (SCRIPTURE) can, potentially, give you great blessings now, today, on earth, as well as eternally in the life to be......
"Potentially", God Willing. His Rules, you might learn some day....
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
That sounds like the party line, or whatever.....
in case you haven't ever found out, getting chickenpox as a child gives lifetime immunity

You first have to survive it. You wanna take that risk, be my guest. The planet is overpopulated anyway.


You can keep your preaching to yourself. I don't care about the bible or Jesus.
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Don't you ever hope to receive eternal life ?!

An enternity of anything gets dull eventually and loses it's value. I am rather glad that death is the end.
God's Word (SCRIPTURE) can, potentially, give you great blessings now, today, on earth, as well as eternally in the life to be......
"Potentially", God Willing. His Rules, you might learn some day....

Scripture can't give me anything other than a headache. I read it once and I'd rather read Fifthy Shades of Grey instead of having to read through the Bible again. Boring, uninspired and pretty horrific especially the older part.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
You first have to survive it. You wanna take that risk, be my guest. The planet is overpopulated anyway.
"overpopulation"..... interesting you should mention this..... (to wit = see who has plans for the last hundred years, published, to 'remedy' this)
"survive"? Good. Look up how people wiped out disease without drugs. (the engineer who finished the Panama canal is a recent good example - he wiped out two very contagious diseases that had prevented the first engineer's accomplishing the task ) .... Keep looking, and see how and when doctors learned to wash their hands ..... Keep looking and see how and when bechamp proved ... well, just keep looking "IF" you even want to know the truth about disease.... (most people do not want to know the truth about disease) ....

As you search for the truth, you will find out that the Bible and Jesus are the most important Truths for you as well as for everyone else - even though most people NEVER find out, until too late.
Just seeking for the TRUTH, no matter what you believe before today (errors and all).
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
An enternity of anything gets dull eventually and loses it's value. I am rather glad that death is the end.
Since you don't yet know the truth, you do realize that it is not true at all - just the opposite, what you just posted, right ? i.e. to discover that eternity is never dull, ever, for those in union with God through and in Jesus, will correct your outlook.
As for as being "glad" AS IF death is the end, sorry , that's not true either - as you will find out one day, hopefully before it is too late.
As for BEFORE death, remember that by not knowing the truth, all the people of the earth are subject to terrible results - suffering , pain, sorrow, depression, etc etc etc without hope, without realizing perfect joy and peace.
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
As for as being "glad" AS IF death is the end, sorry , that's not true either - as you will find out one day, hopefully before it is too late.

I like surprises so I'll wait and see. Your god doesn't like my type anyway so why worry about it.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
Scripture can't give me anything other than a headache.
ooops. The Scribes and Pharisees who read the TORAH (Scripture) got far far far worse than a headache, since they read it without seeking the Truth, without seeking YHVH, without any hope for eternal life or salvation.
The little children who lived in faith, trusting the Father in heaven, got far far far better results all their lives , especially in the life to come eternal life, with hope and joy and peace and righteousness as the FATHER GLADLY GAVE THEM THE KINGDOM, and REVEALED TO THEM HIS KINGDOM/ SALVATION freely, as this is HIS good pleasure so to do.
Yes, HIS good pleasure so to do - reveal beautiful totally true Salvation to those who are as little children trusting Him.... no effort on their part needed, except to choose who to serve - to serve God instead or the devil. (everyone serves one or the other, there is no other option)
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Since you don't yet know the truth, you do realize that it is not true at all - just the opposite, what you just posted, right ?

An unlimited amount of anything makes it worthless. If everyone had unlimited money then money would have no worth. I do not wish to live forever and if it turns out that I stand before your god after I die I'll kindly ask him to delete me so I can rest in peace.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
I like surprises so I'll wait and see. Your god doesn't like my type anyway so why worry about it.
Ah, so you do know a little bit of truth! Yes, God hates some whose hearts are corrupt, as His Word Says.....
Others think God hates them, because someone lied to them - but if you turn to Him to be healed, He may yet heal you as this is why He Himself decided to send His Son Jesus to be born a man, live in the midst of an evil generation, be crucified and raised from the dead, never to die again.
i.e. God "might" not hate you , as you seem to think. True, He might, but that is not something to just assume because someone told you that - find out the truth, if God permits.... find out instead of believing a lie if it is a lie.
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private

In that case I'll serve Lucifer. Based on the Bible he strikes me as as the more pleasant individual of the two.
 
Upvote 0

Skreeper

Well-Known Member
Jan 30, 2017
2,471
2,683
32
Germany
✟91,021.00
Country
Germany
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private

I am pretty sure he hates me since I'm gay. But thats okay, I'm more fabulous than him so I win by default.
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
This is commonly believed deceptions - i.e. not truth at all -
so again, even though all around you even all your life might be despairing,
seek instead the truth from the only one who is able to reveal the truth (God Who Gives Hope and Life ) instead of believing the lies of the god of this evil world the devil.....
Think , think, think, is it better to believe the liar (the devil), as most people do,
or
to seek the truth from the Creator who cannot lie, to seek joy and peace and full healing from the only one who is able to provide this ?
Everyone chooses one or the other, there is no other to choose.
Oh, to "rest" with perfect peace even in this destructive world, is what Jesus calls us to === "Come to Me, and I will give you rest" He Says, and this is Truth.... for all who turn to Him, who seek Him, who ask for His help to live His Way (NOT the way of most on earth who say they are doing so, btw).
 
Upvote 0

yeshuaslavejeff

simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Jan 6, 2005
39,941
11,096
okie
✟222,536.00
Faith
Anabaptist
In that case I'll serve Lucifer. Based on the Bible he strikes me as as the more pleasant individual of the two.
Yes, much of the world's population chooses that also. All deceived of course - as you might find out if you decide to seek the truth.
"Deceived" because the devil is anything except 'pleasant' - he is devourer, hater, punisher, destroyer (of the lives of people you know and might care for), thief...

Remember, or learn, that the devil is responsible for all the killing, all the disease, all the suffering on earth ever since the Garden.
All the deceptions that prevented you so far from turning to the One True God
are of the devil also - EVEN if the deceptions were from 'churches'/ or religious fold/ religious leaders.... which are the very ones Jesus opposed the most and called them what they were (they can not deceive Him, even when they deceive multitudes of people).
 
Upvote 0