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This coorelates with nero and judaism's persecution.
Why do you require from others that which you aren't willing to offer yourself?
I have asked you multiple times to prove from scripture that the Beast and man of Sin and Antichrist are the same individual, and you continue to refuse to do so... yet you have the audacity to REQUIRE everyone else to prove their views from scripture?
Puh-Leese!
Right back atcha bro.
No, the context dictates the pronoun I believe. I've seen it, he, and that, which is a wierd way to pronoun a vision. The surrounding contexts of Ireneous subject matter strongly infers that he is refeering to John here. Ireneous elsewhere refers to people in a similar passive manner. Take note of the following sentence in Ireneouses account. He says: but he (john) tells us the number of his name now, so that when he appears (future in Ireneouses understanding) that we will mark him. The context of this sentence supports that Ireneous is referring to john who was seen not so long ago. "who saw the vision" is a prepositional phrase describing who he is. If the next phrase would be telling when the vision was seen, it would more likely begin with "which" and not with 'for it, he or that.
This point aside, the other evidence is in support of early date. Rev 15:3 etc. It's been hashed many times before. People will project what is in their hearts; good and love or fear and hate.
The evidence of the simultaneous persecution of the beast (nero) and the harlot (Judaism) is that the woman is riding on the beast for a while, and then the beast turns on her. That's how things went at about 65, 66 AD.
The evidence of the simultaneous persecution of the beast (nero) and the harlot (Judaism) is that the woman is riding on the beast for a while, and then the beast turns on her. That's how things went at about 65, 66 AD.
Can you offer proof in the form of objective data?
Lemme know..
Proof is a strong word to accomplish for naysayees.
Rev 15:3 says thst they ssng the song of moses. The song of Moses is Deut 32 which is the latter end of the mosaic covt. In that chapter it says that he would tske vengeance on his enemies for provoking hus sons and daughters (christians). This is after the new prophet (deut 18:15-19; Acts 3:22-24) delivers the new covt (deut 30:5-15; Rom 10:5-8). Thus t he whole subject matter of Rev is shown or "prooved" to refer to the events of the latter end of the mosaic covt and the full establishment and open revealing of the forever covt called new to the mosaic covt people.
Right. I can't remember the gematriac reasons, but they were there, too.
does that mean they were an inside "code" Christians had for Nero or for ____? It is obviously written with a sense of high security and lives at stake if they don't know.
Proof is offeeed. Study up and defeat the proof or recieve its truth.
Its like an algebra solutiin can be prooved.
Its like an algebra solutiin can be prooved.
Notrash, I did search 666 and gematria at fulfilledprophecy.blogspot.com and nothing comes up
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