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WHY THE LORD'S DAY IS NOT SATURDAY

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SeventhFisherofMen

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exactly. Jesus wants us to think for ourselves. I acknowledge there may be things I believe that are wrong, but when I believe something based on scripture it's ok if I have an actual reason. My issue with regard to Sabbath days and The Lords day is I have yet to be give a genuine reason as to why, according to New Testament, worshipping on Sunday is wrong.

People on here are acting like I'm offending Jesus or even sinning by honoring Sunday, and when I give new testament scripture I get completely ignored and then given an overwhelming number of verses from the old testament about Sabbath. These same people who acknowledge that sacrificial law is done away with under the new covenant cover their ears and eyes when you even SUGGEST the same could be done for Sabbath day and a day of worship.

The difference is when I see they are following based on their scripture, I know God is loving and understands where they are coming from, and they will stand in the resurrection, and I even show the verse that shows both should be convinced. But when I say why I follow Sunday OOOOHHHHH NO I'M SOOOO WRONG AND HERE'S WHY!

It gets old is all. Thanks for talking to me about this.
 
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I am sorry, I did not notice you already replied, so I still edited my post a bit for a better English and I added some points. But the meaning remains the same.

I am from the camp of "all days are equal", keeping no specific day, neither Sabbath, nor Sunday. But you certainly do not offend God if you keep Sunday for worshiping Him. As far as you do it willfully and in freedom and do not impose it as a rule to others, its between you and God and everything is fine. Whatever helps and fits you.
 
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I believe we should have a day of rest, I personally think if you believe Saturday or Sunday God understands, but I also believe we should honor God on all days much the same.

The one distinction I follow that I do believe is important in reference to treating Sunday as a day of rest is: #1 I don't work, and #2 I don't buy things and cause others to work.

It is between me and God true and honestly everyone's faith is between them and God, but I am prepared to give an answer for why I do what I do for Jesus.

I don't say this to make anyone feel guilty or wrong if they don't do what I do, rather I fear Jesus saying I am ashamed of the Gospel when people give me an opportunity to share why I believe what I believe and I don't answer accordingly.
 
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Jews had fasting days as did early Christians (as they do now also). Within the context of that passage, yes, it was about fasting or not fasting...
 
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I am afraid that if you consume electricity, you cause somebody to work, anyway.

In our society, its practically impossible for work to totally stop for a day. Police, firefighters or healthcare aside, there must also be drivers for public transport, heating of homes, shops open for some emergency goods and services, gas stations open for those on the road etc.

But I agree that its important to have enough of rest, from both physical and mental activity. However, I do not think that God is somehow specifically honored by our inactivity.
 
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My issue with regard to Sabbath days and The Lords day is I have yet to be give a genuine reason as to why, according to New Testament, worshipping on Sunday is wrong.
It's not wrong but Sunday is not the Sabbath day, it is Sunday. Early Christians kept both.
 
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It's not wrong but Sunday is not the Sabbath day, it is Sunday. Early Christians kept both.
The vast majority of early Christians kept only Sunday.

Some minority of early Christians from Jews kept both, as they continued also with attending Jewish festivals or observing temple rituals. They also continued to visit synagogues, before they were expelled.
 
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FYI for those reading , this is not an SDA or scripture teaching but unique to this poster.
 
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It is not fine to do whatever suits oneself. If it feels good do it ideology has never been of God and has done nothing but drive a wedge between us and Him. There is nothing in the Holy Writ that says this mindset is ever been okay, regarding the Sabbath or anything in our lives. There is only one standard for us to live by and that is through God and His power, through Christ as shown in Holy Writ.
 
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Hi SB, I thought you had said in the past that the Lord's Day in Revelation was the seventh day Sabbath? And thus it was a literal 24-hour day?

Did I misunderstand back then?

John 20:19
When therefore it was evening on that day, the first day of the week, and when the doors were locked where the disciples were assembled, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood in the middle, and said to them, “Peace be to you.”
 
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The Eastern Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox continue to honor the Sabbath to this day, so I believe you are mistaken in your above claims
 
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That is right nowhere is it forbidden to eat meat and commanded to eat just vegetables. Which proves that chapter 14 is not about God's will as expressed through His word but men disputing over their thoughts, differing opinions. Things that do not have a thus saith the Lord and are arguable as verse 1 states. The 7th Day Sabbath is not one of these.


Rom 14:1 (NET) Now receive the one who is weak in the faith, and do not have disputes over differing opinions.
Rom 14:1 (YLT) And receive the one who is weak in the faith, not to judgments of your thoughts.
Rom 14:1 (ISV) Accept anyone who is weak in faith, but not for the purpose of arguing over differences of opinion.
Rom 14:1 (WPNT) Receive someone who is weak in the faith, but not for disputes over arguables.
 
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"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery."
Gal 5:1
 
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Do not look down on your brothers and sisters in Christ for how they follow Jesus.
That to me is the real issue (not saying that anyone here is or isn't doing that).

Divisiveness doesn't have to be overt to be harmful. I grew up Pentecostal. While we acknowledged that there were Christians in other groups, we had the full Gospel, we were special. If other people would just set aside their pride and open themselves up to God and his word, they would believe like we did.

When I got older, I came to see that kind of attitude as a work of the flesh.

Galatians 5:20
...rivalries, divisions, sects...
 
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I am not of any of those groups you mentioned. However one is saying more than they ought insinuating they do not think for themselves. Almost all Christian denominations have a core set of beliefs that one is to adhere to and promote. I've study with all these you mentioned and all three promote thinking for yourself, but as almost any other denomination they teach that you should not steer from what they teach.
 
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The Eastern Orthodox and the Oriental Orthodox continue to honor the Sabbath to this day
I cannot find any relevant sources about EOC or OOC keeping or honoring Sabbath. Anyway, the context was the early church.
 
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Brother, that does not compute for 3 nights. The prophecy of Jonah is not just 3 days, but more specifically: 3 days and 3 nights in the following passage.
A day and a night is the "whole" of the synecdoche. 3 days and 3 nights gives 3 "whole" periods of which Friday evening, all of Saturday, and Sunday morning are the parts referenced. Synecdoche is a very common figure of speech which is found frequently used in the Scriptures.
 
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"It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery."
Gal 5:1
You misquote that text. DO thy own will is from Aleister Crawley and his ilk not Galatians.
 
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We were talking about early Christians.
EO and OO have unbroken continuity with the early Christians. We weren't Sunday only worshippers who one day decided we would start honoring the Sabbath again. It has always been part of our respective traditions.
 
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