The Thing Most Sabbath Keepers Do not Talk About.

[Hentenza]

Jesus said to not break the least of these commandments as it affects our status in heaven, i.e. there or not Mat5:19-20. We were not even born when Jesus died at the Cross.

Again, post a verse where the 4th commandment was repeated in Jesus two love commandments. All you have to do to prove your argument is yo post one verse. If it was so important that you and your church condemn Christians as sinners for not keeping the sabbath then you better have some solid evidence to back that fallacy up.

But if one wishes to brush off this warning by Jesus, He again gives us free will, However, I do not believe we can use the excuse at His second coming, I didn't know. Clearly the law was not nailed to the Cross, it guards the gates of heaven Rev22:14-15. Sin is what separated man from God Isa59:2 doing the same thing is not how we will be reconciled Mat7:21-23

lol Time to change your c&p since all of these verses have been addressed already.

 

[Carl Emerson]

And yet Carl, since you are I were kids, we have been taught by this world's religious sects and businesses "who come in Christ's Name", that Jesus "Refused to Comply with His Father's Laws" concerning the adulterous woman.

Personally I have not come across such teaching.

Jesus could only do what He saw the Father doing.

The Fathers heart of compassion did not want the woman stoned.

Jesus saw this and trusted the conviction of the Spirit to turn the hearts of the accusers as He wrote on the sand.

The Father was expressing the Law of the Spirit - not the OT Law of sin and death.

The OT law was a temporary measure that was passing away, a shadow to point to the Law of the Spirit in Christ.

So Jesus was technically ignoring the written OT law in obedience to the Father.

Jesus had expressed a compassion principle to bypass the OT Law anyway, so His inaction was sinless.

This is the sad fact we are witnessing here - folks making an idol of the OT Law and missing out on the Law of the Spirit direct from the Fathers heart even when His Spirit is personally indwelling them. In that they are bewitched as Paul said.

Walking in the Spirit by seeing what the Father is doing leads to a wonderful life of celebrating His Glory as we walk in the Way and fulfil the pre-prepared works He has ordained for us to walk in.

Sadly this is not often taught as our teachers have been elevated to positions of spiritual responsibility without first learning to die daily, hear the Father daily, and walk in the Spirit as Jesus walked.

 

[Servus]

Jesus was not a sinner. He broke no commandments. He said so Himself John15:10 why do we not believe Him John8:46-47

Did Paul break a commandment when he said circumcision was no longer necessary? Funny how Paul's authority is more accepted than Jesus' authority over commandments.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Did Paul break a commandment when he said circumcision was no longer necessary? Funny how Paul's authority is more accepted than Jesus' authority over commandments.

Paul said circumcision was not a means of salvation, it never was, why he was constantly correcting the Jews. . He never once taught one didn't need to get circumcised. He in fact got Timothy circumcised. It was just no longer necessary to get access to the cure for forgiveness of sins. Jesus at the Cross did away with all animal sacrifices Heb10:1-10 Heb9:10-15 so instead of bring an animal sacrifice for sins to an earthy priest, we all have the ability to go to Jesus when we sin or break God's law. True repentance means a sorry heart and a change of direction- moving away from sin, abiding in Christ.

 

[Carl Emerson]

Teaching Spiritual things is a Spiritual gift. God said it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath (Matt 12:12), so your understanding is wrong. You shouldn't share it anymore. It is a sin to teach falsely.

Well there is a judgement if I ever heard one...

Time to read Romans 14 again...

Strange that what you went on to say I agreed with.

The matter that seems to elude folks is that Jesus never sinned yet broke the OT Law as John clearly said.

This is because the Will of the Father Trumps the OT Law which was unable to prescribe what was a righteous act in every circumstance.

This is why the OT Law was passing away and being replaced with the Indwelling presence of God Himself so believers could have an ear on what God willed.

Jesus could only do what He saw the father doing and we are to do the same.

He then is our guide and the OT Law is no longer required.

Obeying the voice of the Father is our ultimate responsibility.

There is nothing new in this - we see Isaiah doing this in Isaiah 3:5.

You wont read that requirement in the OT Law.

 

[Servus]

Paul said circumcision was not a means of salvation, it never was, why he was constantly correcting the Jews. . He never once taught one didn't need to get circumcised.

Was a man uncircumcised when he was called? He should not be circumcised. 1 Corinthians 7:18. Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Galatians 5:2. In Philippians 3:2 Paul called circumcision mutilation.

He in fact got Timothy circumcised.

That was before he started teaching against it.

It was just no longer necessary to get access to the cure for forgiveness of sins.

Irrelevant, God commanded that it be done.

Jesus at the Cross did away with all animal sacrifices Heb10:1-10 Heb9:10-15 so instead of bring an animal sacrifice for sins to an earthy priest, we all have the ability to go to Jesus when we sin or break God's law. True repentance means a sorry heart and a change of direction- moving away from sin, abiding in Christ.

Sounds like you're saying that Jesus dying on the cross did away with the law.