WHY THE LORD'S DAY IS NOT SATURDAY

[SkyWriting]

Don't have any, but it would seem that you do! ALL "613" right?

Jesus is now the Sabbath. There are no special days.
Colossians 2:16
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

There is no biblical evidence of Sunday being consecrated as "The Lord's Day", or for any special purpose for that matter.

Please follow the discussion.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Jesus is now the Sabbath. There are no special days.
Colossians 2:16
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath.

I don't let pagans judge me

 

[SkyWriting]

So? Again, has nothing to do with my point

The law and special days have been replaced by Jesus.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

John 14:15
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Matthew 15:9
In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

Hebrews 8:13
In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

 

[SkyWriting]

I don't let pagans judge me

It says no one at all may judge others. No matter their affiliation.
It's basically because we are not qualified to judge others standing.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The law and special days have been replaced by Jesus.

Colossians 2:17
These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

John 14:15
“If you love me, you will keep my commandments.

Matthew 15:9
In vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’

Hebrews 8:13
In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Here we go again...

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It says no one at all may judge others. No matter their affiliation.

Who was he talking TO and who was he talking ABOUT??? So why are you judging me if you believe that??

 

[pasifika]

As posted in the post you are quoting from the purpose of the law is to give us a knowledge of what sin is and to lead us to Christ that we might be forgiven through faith, repentance and confession of our sins (Acts of the Apostles 2:38; 1 John 1:9; Galatians 3:22-25; 1 John 5:4)

As you said...the law gives us the knowledge of Sin....So it doesn't give us the knowledge of the Son or Faith...

So you need to have the knowledge of the Son through your Faith in order for the forgiveness of Sins otherwise your sins remains...

 

[SkyWriting]

The Lord's Day refers to the day he rose from the dead--the key event in human history. As for counting the number of days, this has been discussed ad nauseum here and, yes, burial on Friday and resurrection on Sunday morning does involve parts of three days. We don't always recognize this because days are customarily counted in a different way now.

I do not object.
Colossians 2:16-17
Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

 

[SkyWriting]

Who was he talking TO and who was he talking ABOUT??? So why are you judging me if you believe that??

You are judging yourself. I already know we are all sinners.
There is nothing for me to judge about anyone.
I'm not qualified. Only a sinless person is qualified to judge sin.

 

[Freth]

True Rest in Jesus

Even the New International Version of the Bible specifies what rest in Jesus is. This is directly quoted from the NIV.

A Sabbath-Rest for the People of God
Hebrews 4:1-13

1 Therefore, since the promise of entering his rest still stands, let us be careful that none of you be found to have fallen short of it.

2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.

3 Now we who have believed enter that rest, just as God has said,

“So I declared on oath in my anger,
‘They shall never enter my rest.”

And yet his works have been finished since the creation of the world.

4 For somewhere he has spoken about the seventh day in these words: “On the seventh day God rested from all his works.

5 And again in the passage above he says, “They shall never enter my rest.”

6 Therefore since it still remains for some to enter that rest, and since those who formerly had the good news proclaimed to them did not go in because of their disobedience,

7 God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted:

“Today, if you hear his voice,
do not harden your hearts.”

8 For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day.

9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God’s rest also rests from their works, just as God did from his.

11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

12 For the word of God is alive and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.

13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight. Everything is uncovered and laid bare before the eyes of him to whom we must give account.​

Rest is the seventh day Sabbath.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

As you said...the law gives us the knowledge of Sin....So it doesn't give us the knowledge of the Son or Faith...

So you need to have the knowledge of the Son through your Faith in order for the forgiveness of Sins otherwise your sins remains...

Ok.. and your point is? - You cannot separate sin from the law as the law gives us a knowledge of what sin is when broken and righteousness when obeyed (Romans 3:20; Psalms 119:172) and you cannot separate condemnation from sin (breaking God's law - 1 John 3:4) from Christs forgiveness because if you do not know your a sinner you have no need of a Savior from sin (Matthew 9:12-13). Christ is the end of the law meaning that is where the Law leads sinners. No law = no sin = No Savior from sin = lost because your still in your sins and the scripture is fulfilled those who live without law shall perish without law *Romans 2:12.

Hope this helps.

 

[pasifika]

Ok.. and your point is? - You cannot separate sin from the law as the law gives us a knowledge of what sin is when broken and righteousness when obeyed (Romans 3:20; Psalms 119:172) and you cannot separate condemnation from sin (breaking God's law - 1 John 3:4) from Christs forgiveness because if you do not know your a sinner you have no need of a Savior from sin (Matthew 9:12-13). Christ is the end of the law meaning that is where the Law leads sinners. No law = no sin = No Savior from sin = lost because your still in your sins and the scripture is fulfilled those who live without law shall perish without law *Romans 2:12.

Hope this helps.

My point is, our knowledge of Sin (through the law) cannot made us turn away from those sins.. Romans 2:17-24 gives an example of how the Jews had the law with them teach them to live righteous and yet they break it...
Romans 2:23...You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law...

This is the same law you think you can keep..

You know the law can be kept through Faith and it doesn't written in ink or stones but Spirit on heart through hearing the Gospel of Jesus..Not the written code in Sinai....

 

[DamianWarS]

You need to get your facts right here. The early Church kept the Sabbath.

I'm not talking about the Sabbath I'm talking about how the church valued Sunday as a day of gathering.

 

[DamianWarS]

There is no scriptural support that says that "the Lords day" is Sunday or the first day of the week. There is no scripture linking Sunday or the first day of the week to "the Lords day" anywhere in the bible. This is a teaching and tradition of men that is not biblical

There is also no scriptual support linking it to the Sabbath or the 7th day.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

My point is, our knowledge of Sin (through the law) cannot made us turn away from those sins.. Romans 2:17-24 gives an example of how the Jews had the law with them teach them to live righteous and yet they break it...
Romans 2:23...You who boast in the law, do you dishonor God by breaking the law...

This is the same law you think you can keep..

You know the law can be kept through Faith and it doesn't written in ink or stones but Spirit on heart through hearing the Gospel of Jesus..Not the written code in Sinai....

Go and read Matthew 9:12-13 and tell me what you think it means

 

[LoveGodsWord]

There is also no scriptual support linking it to the Sabbath or the 7th day.

Nonsense. There sure is scripture linking "the Lords day" to the Sabbath. It has already been posted. Please see post # 12 on page one.

 

[DamianWarS]

Nonsense. There sure is scripture linking "the Lords day" to the Sabbath. It has already been posted. Please see post # 12 on page one.

how can these verses show the Sabbath is called "The Lord's day" when not one verse you posed mentions it?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

how can these verses show the Sabbath is called "The Lord's day" when not one verse you posed mentions it?

Ask Jesus (Please see post # 12 on page one).

Q1. Dear Jesus what day is the Lords day according to your Word and not the teachings and traditions of men?

A1. Matthew 12:8 BUT THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY?

 

[DamianWarS]

Ask Jesus (Please see post # 12 on page one).

Q1. Dear Jesus what day is the Lords day according to your Word and not the teachings and traditions of men?

A1. Matthew 12:8 BUT THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY?

this doesn't say "the Lord's Day". also where in scripture is Q1? you are making up a question and pretending Jesus is answering it without out of context dialog?