Why teach creationism in public school science classes?

[AV1611VET]

Maybe my Creationist Reservation idea might be worth looking into.

Completely off the grid from the rational thinkers and technology and everything else we owe to science. You can have your territory with all the things God and dogma gives you and nothing else and we'll take all the stuff science and reason gives us and nothing else. Sounds more than fair to me.


(edit: this website would be a ghost town)

Here we go again.

And what should we call this island that you and Rocky want us on? Auschwitz?

 

[AV1611VET]

*Envisions a future nation where technology continues to advance, with the exception of a designated territory where people once again eat rancid foods, ride donkeys everywhere, wipe themselves with their bare hands and pray daily.*

And the leader's name is what? Adolf?

 

[AV1611VET]

because those who build new technologies first reap the benefits. Have you never heard of a patent?

Shouldn't the benefits be shared?

 

[AV1611VET]

Someone standing on a tiny hill to give a sermon isn't geology.

-- Solid aurum.

 

[hollyda]

Correct.

Why not? creationism isn't fact, it's Truth -- historical Truth.

Here's the thing, though... you can say it's truth all you want. Without the facts, no one is obligated to believe you.

I can say forks have feelings, and that's the Truth. Facts? What facts? What evidence? I'm making a declarative statement, and because I say so, it is so. This is essentially what you're doing.

Then we'll vote NO at the polls, as long as you guys insist on denying the Truth.

Have fun with that.

And as such games as D&D attest, most people left unattended will choose the darkness over the light.

Because fantasy equals reality. Do you think Stephen King is a killer clown?

 

[Delphiki]

And the leader's name is what? Adolf?

Only if that's who you guys pick as your leader. I think you all should have your own completely autonomous territory if you want it. Are Native American reservations concentration camps?

 

[AV1611VET]

I can say forks have feelings, and that's the Truth.

You can say it, and a second party can deny it; but a third party would have to break the tie, wouldn't they?

And if that third party is omniscient and incapable of lying, who should the second party believe?

 

[Hespera]

Maybe my Creationist Reservation idea might be worth looking into.

Completely off the grid from the rational thinkers and technology and everything else we owe to science. You can have your territory with all the things God gives you and we'll take all the stuff science gives us. Sounds more than fair to me.

A reservation for the ignorant and backwards who dont have the capacity to live in the current century? That was tried with the unfortunate American natives who didnt have time to try to match the overpowering sophistication of the European invaders.

The hard core fundies wouldnt be satisfied with a res. they want the whole country.

Make the whole country a res. for the culturally backward. It didnt work in the 19th century, not for very long, and it wont work here.

I should just go back to China and not worry about it. But sheesh... I jsut hate to see it coming. I like the USA! As it is we rank way way low on science achievement. And honestly, you go to walmart, and its all chinese products being bought by fat dumb walruses...how long is this supposed to go on?

here is what happened to one reservation...

 

[hollyda]

You can say it, and a second party can deny it; but a third party would have to break the tie, wouldn't they?

And if that third party is omniscient and incapable of lying, who should the second party believe?

You're still stating something without giving me a reason to believe the third party exists.

Forks have feelings, then. And did you ever decide whether or not Stephen King is a killer clown? Because I'd also like to know if Jim Caviezel is actually Jesus. You know, 'cause fantasy equals reality.

 

[AV1611VET]

Only if that's who you guys pick as your leader.

Oh, I see -- you'll give us the island, but we can pick our own leader?

Kinda like a vassal state?

I think you all should have your own completely autonomous territory if you want it.

We're not interested -- we were here first; but seeing as we believe in freedom of religion...

Are Native American reservations concentration camps?

Are they following your guidelines?

 

[sandwiches]

I think all Christians should remove their kids from public schools and start doing what the bible commanded, bring their children up in the way they should go, and stop letting a bunch of ungodly people raise your kids filling their heads with so much crap! its no wonder the youth of our country is so screwed up

I thought it was rock music... or video games... or violent movies... or pornography... or pot... or dungeons and dragons... or fluoride in the water... or satanism... or the homosexual agenda... or Mexicans...

*yawn*

 

[Delphiki]

Hespera, you weren't supposed to point that out. Now I'll never talk them into it.

 

[AV1611VET]

You know, 'cause fantasy equals reality.

I believe the proper expression is: Life imitates art.

 

[sandwiches]

We're not interested -- we were here first;

No you weren't. Don't lie.

 

[sandwiches]

I believe the proper expression is: Life imitates art.

And the Bible imitates science... and fails.

 

[Delphiki]

I believe the proper expression is: Life imitates art.

 

[AV1611VET]

Hespera, you weren't supposed to point that out. Now I'll never talk them into it.

I think sandwiches has a point.

Who should go next, Del?

Those who oppose in peer reviews? followed by those who don't score as highly on science exams (written by you, of course)? followed by...

 

[hollyda]

I believe the proper expression is: Life imitates art.

Way to answer the question.

 

[AV1611VET]

And the Bible imitates science... and fails.

Does It now?

 

[Delphiki]

I think sandwiches has a point.

Who should go next, Del?

Those who oppose in peer reviews? followed by those who don't score as highly on science exams (written by you, of course)? followed by...

It wasn't my idea to reject science. I just think that if you reject science then you really wouldn't mind passing it up. And if you really really HATE science or think science is the great Satan, then maybe you should get as far away from it as possible.

I guess Hovindists aren't actually willing to go that far for God. My bad.