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I'd have to disagree, unfortunately ... at least in regards to the Christ of the common NT.These practices seems very Christ like, to me.
That's interesting. The Eight Fold Path is everything I experience IN Christ. I'm unable to experience the Heart of Christ and not also experience the Eight Fold Path as well.I'd have to disagree, unfortunately ... at least in regards to the Christ of the common NT.
Do you experience the following as part of the "Heart of Christ"?:That's interesting. The Eight Fold Path is everything I experience IN Christ. I'm unable to experience the Heart of Christ and not also experience the Eight Fold Path as well.
Thanks for sharing. Have you met your God?
Why?
Thanks for your testimony. All we can do at the end is operate according what we know for ourselves... Basically I believe because of what I heard and what I've seen.
No!Do you experience the following as part of the "Heart of Christ"?:
"But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." Lk 19:27
I'm not sure why it should be called the "heart of Christ" then, unless you are referring to another Christ (e.g. not of the NT)?
The "Heart of Christ" that I know is what I experience as I sit in the skin of Jesus and experience what He experiences of the stuff that is a cosmic wide expression that flows through all that is. Like yourself, I only know what I personally experience.I'm not sure why it should be called the "heart of Christ" then, unless you are referring to another Christ (e.g. not of the NT)?
Indeed. Is the Jesus you experienced described in the Gnostic Gospels?The "Heart of Christ" that I know is what I experience as I sit in the skin of Jesus and experience what He experiences of the stuff that is a cosmic wide expression that flows through all that is. Like yourself, I only know what I personally experience.
It's more of the "Christ" experience than anything else. But that experience is not limited or bounded by a single person named Jesus. It's a process of gnosis, not to be confused with The Gnostic Gospels. But I do experience the Gnostic Gospels as closer to the way than what I see in the Bible. That's also where the Eight Fold Path can be experience in the Heart of Christ.Indeed. Is the Jesus you experienced described in the Gnostic Gospels?
Thanks for sharing.It's more of the "Christ" experience than anything else. But that experience is not limited or bounded by a single person named Jesus. It's a process of gnosis, not to be confused with The Gnostic Gospels. But I do experience the Gnostic Gospels as closer to the way than what I see in the Bible. That's also where the Eight Fold Path can be experience in the Heart of Christ.
For myself, I'm unable to separate the Mind of Buddha from the Mind of Christ. They come from the same source.Thanks for sharing.
Considering the varied (some peaceful, some violent) perspectives around the alleged person and names/titles of "Jesus" or "Christ", I personally find it more useful to associate my experiences of the Eightfold Path with the "Mind of Buddha". No doubt you and others experience otherwise.
I can understand how you might hold your perspective.For myself, I'm unable to separate the Mind of Buddha from the Mind of Christ. They come from the same source.
The perspective changes dramatically as one moves closer to the source, as "experienced". On the other hand, there is and always be a difference if one goes by beliefs and dogma, which is what your doing with the NT as a background. I'm not into beliefs and dogma. But I can completely understand why you may be having difficulty with the experiential part. That way of knowing has become lost for the most part in this modern materialistic culture.I can understand how you might hold your perspective.
With my background in the NT, however, the two figures are polar opposites (as I see it).
My experiences are not solely with dogma, but also with higher states of mind. I am merely stating that, in light of my own experiences, I would not call them experiences of the "heart of Christ" or of "Christ". I respect the fact that you do, however.The perspective changes dramatically as one moves closer to the source, as "experienced". On the other hand, there is and always be a difference if one goes by beliefs and dogma, which is what your doing with the NT as a background. I'm not into beliefs and dogma. But I can completely understand why you may be having difficulty with the experiential part. That way of knowing has become lost for the most part in this modern materialistic culture.
I claim that the Eightfold Path is great and right on the basis of personal, direct experience, that application of those practices in my daily life results not only in great and right results, but I notice that they improve me immensely as an individual towards greater peacefulness, loving-kindness, compassion, empathy, and equanimity, among other qualities.
On the other hand, I have no such personal, direct experiences associated with belief in the dogma I used to uphold - dogmas similar to what you state here (except perhaps anxieties and fear with the thought of offending "God" or being sent to his hell).
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