Why seek "God"?

[toLiJC]

Which is why Buddhism pursues universal care, and promotes widening our circles of compassion to include all living things instead of growing attached to the select few.
And also why Bodhisattvas (i.e. those who have reached Enlightenment, but remain within the cycle in order to help everyone else to free themselves from the root causes of suffering) feature so prominently in the popular faith.

Monastic traditions in Christianity are no different. Buddhism as a whole rejects the notion of the asket on the mountain, and instead holds that the Buddhist journey always leads back to the market place, into the very centre of society. It is not a faith based on rejecting "the world", but on changing one's perception of the same. Now CHRISTIANITY, on the other hand...

don't be dull, buddhism doesn't profess the perfect truth, it distorts it, and buddha was never a Savior like Jesus - it doesn't pay to substitute the true One, because only He is the true Light/Life for us...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

The "third world" became the third world through European conquest and oppression.
In fact, it never truly ended: political sovereignty was achieved at the cost of being bled out by private corporations and banks.

you mislead yourself into believing what has supposedly been disseminated about the failures of the third world (which were imputed to the more civilized world - because many idolaters/heretics didn't confess their sins but preferred to ascribe them to others) - who has prevented them from being righteous and civilized?!, for example, if i say that their politicians have prevented our politicians from governing our country effectively when the distance between us and them is thousands of miles in every sense of the words, will i be fair?!, moreover, the third world is the most ancient civilization, they should be leading, while america has begun to be a great civilization since christopher columbus discovered it 5 centuries ago...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

Molecules of air can be experienced by other senses and using tools.

If you can neither perceive these spirits, nor experience them or their effects, then why believe blindly in them?

if you have not known the true One since you started to be religious, then why are you surprised that you are not capable of anything more than that - if you don't know the things of God, this doesn't mean that there is no one else to know them

Blessings

 

[dlamberth]

Molecules of air can be experienced by other senses and using tools.

Speaking of experiencing air by other senses, many folks work with all of the elements, air, water, earth and fire as meditations, walks and song. Each element has their own spirit about them. Air is often tied to the throat charka. It is unseen, but felt. It's movement is in every direction and constantly moving. It's associated with a visionary leader who's seeks new opportunities. On the flip side, Air is also associated with people who are scattered, eccentric and cold. Personally, I enjoy sitting out doors by my garden on windy days, taking in the flow of air about me.

 

[toLiJC]

I cannot say. There are others who don't believe in "St Paul" or his words. How is your interpretation and judgment superior to theirs?

as i said before, i don't have my (own) interpretation of/judgment on or about Scripture

2 Corinthians 3:5-6 "Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God. He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."

Blessings

 

[ananda]

if you have not known the true One since you started to be religious, then why are you surprised that you are not capable of anything more than that - if you don't know the things of God, this doesn't mean that there is no one else to know them

Blessings

The problem, as I see it, is that you have not evidenced a way - which I have not tried already - by which your "true One" may be known.

 

[ananda]

Speaking of experiencing air by other senses, many folks work with all of the elements, air, water, earth and fire as meditations, walks and song. Each element has their own spirit about them. Air is often tied to the throat charka. It is unseen, but felt. It's movement is in every direction and constantly moving. It's associated with a visionary leader who's seeks new opportunities. On the flip side, Air is also associated with people who are scattered, eccentric and cold. Personally, I enjoy sitting out doors by my garden on windy days, taking in the flow of air about me.

I enjoy nature similarly!

 

[ananda]

as i said before, i don't have my (own) interpretation of/judgment on or about Scripture

2 Corinthians 3:5-6 "Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God. He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life."

Blessings

Perhaps this question might serve to be clearer to demonstrate my intent: How did you decide to choose "2 Corinthians" as authoritative scripture for yourself? Why not the "Gospel of Thomas"? Or the Buddhist Tipitaka?

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

don't be dull, buddhism doesn't profess the perfect truth, it distorts it, and buddha was never a Savior like Jesus - it doesn't pay to substitute the true One, because only He is the true Light/Life for us...

Blessings

When arguments fail, try blind assertions and condescension? Good luck with that.
The only interesting thing about the Biblical Jesus is his ethics - and those are not that spectacularly different from rabbinical Judaism: Hillel the Elder and so forth.

"Love your enemies" is a powerful message.
So is telling people that being rich is a colossal stumbling block.
Alas, contemporary Christians manage to be the most nationalistic, militaristic and materialistic bunch on the block, worshipping the wealthy and the ruthless.

 

[Jane_the_Bane]

you mislead yourself into believing what has supposedly been disseminated about the failures of the third world (which were imputed to the more civilized world - because many idolaters/heretics didn't confess their sins but preferred to ascribe them to others) - who has prevented them from being righteous and civilized?!, for example, if i say that their politicians have prevented our politicians from governing our country effectively when the distance between us and them is thousands of miles in every sense of the words, will i be fair?!, moreover, the third world is the most ancient civilization, they should be leading, while america has begun to be a great civilization since christopher columbus discovered it 5 centuries ago...

Blessings

Your understanding and knowledge of world history leaves much to be desired.
I could write a lengthy post about the dynamics of civilization, the influence of commerce, and an outline of colonialism. But since even the bare basics seem to be missing, it'd be so much work that I simply encourage you to read up on it - or else watch the "Crash Course" on YouTube for a less demanding approach.

 

[habibii zahra]

I haven't met Allah or a single one of his appointed messengers. On the other hand ... Aten's divine might manifests powerfully in the sky every morning?

this is not Aten ..this is the god of universe who is manifesting powerfully in the sky every morning..he is th one who makes miracles he is the one who created all thing he has the absolute power to do anyting..he is god ALLAH the god of jesus and moses and Mohammad..he is unique for all people

 

[ananda]

this is not Aten ..this is the god of universe who is manifesting powerfully in the sky every morning..he is th one who makes miracles he is the one who created all thing he has the absolute power to do anyting..he is god ALLAH the god of jesus and moses and Mohammad..he is unique for all people

Never met the guy, unfortunately.

 

[toLiJC]

The problem, as I see it, is that you have not evidenced a way - which I have not tried already - by which your "true One" may be known.

His outstretched arms are always ready to embrace you if you really "go" to Him, but if you prefer another god (to Him), then it will be likely that you lose the direct/close connection/contact/relationship with the true One - so the way to know Him is that the worshiper has to put the pure and perfect love for the neighbors/cohabitants first in his/her faith, it is faithfulness to (the) overall/all-embracing salvation in Him as well as to Him Himself/His truth...

there is a whole teaching/entire doctrine, and, if not all at once/outright, at least step by step the worshiper has to assimilate/master it through faith, which may require (a display of) patience...

Revelation 13:10 (AKJV) "He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."

when i started to practice the faith in the true One many years ago i knew nothing about Him/it, but step by step i grew spiritually and turned out to be His witness (every worshiper in Him could turn out to be different in gift and order, not from any other worshiper, but from (many) other worshipers)...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

Perhaps this question might serve to be clearer to demonstrate my intent: How did you decide to choose "2 Corinthians" as authoritative scripture for yourself? Why not the "Gospel of Thomas"? Or the Buddhist Tipitaka?

i didn't choose, the true One works in me and makes me do His Will, i just sought/invoked and was faithful to Him - as the wind moves the boat, while the helmsman has simply to spread the sail and keep the course

Blessings

 

[ananda]

His outstretched arms are always ready to embrace you if you really "go" to Him, but if you prefer another god (to Him), then it will be likely that you lose the direct/close connection/contact/relationship with the true One - so the way to know Him is that the worshiper has to put the pure and perfect love for the neighbors/cohabitants first in his/her faith, it is faithfulness to (the) overall/all-embracing salvation in Him as well as to Him Himself/His truth...

there is a whole teaching/entire doctrine, and, if not all at once/outright, at least step by step the worshiper has to assimilate/master it through faith, which may require (a display of) patience...

Revelation 13:10 (AKJV) "He that leads into captivity shall go into captivity: he that kills with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints."

when i started to practice the faith in the true One many years ago i knew nothing about Him/it, but step by step i grew spiritually and turned out to be His witness (every worshiper in Him could turn out to be different in gift and order, not from any other worshiper, but from (many) other worshipers)...

Blessings

How did I not "really 'go' to him"?

 

[ananda]

i didn't choose, the true One works in me and makes me do His Will, i just sought/invoked and was faithful to Him - as the wind moves the boat, while the helmsman has simply to spread the sail and keep the course

Blessings

I sought/invoked and was faithful too, I didn't meet him, unfortunately.

 

[habibii zahra]

Never met the guy, unfortunately.

he is here present it is your problem due to never meating him

 

[toLiJC]

When arguments fail, try blind assertions and condescension? Good luck with that.
The only interesting thing about the Biblical Jesus is his ethics - and those are not that spectacularly different from rabbinical Judaism: Hillel the Elder and so forth.

"Love your enemies" is a powerful message.
So is telling people that being rich is a colossal stumbling block.
Alas, contemporary Christians manage to be the most nationalistic, militaristic and materialistic bunch on the block, worshipping the wealthy and the ruthless.

were you ever in india to see what the situation of the people is there (i don't mean whether you were in the center of the big cities there)?!, hinduism is the religion that enslaves the people the most, as a result they have no normal lives but suffer all the time and die untimely in all sorts of bad conditions, and on top of that they are diverted from the true One into all kinds of other(false) gods so that they cannot have the true "Light" but may perish in the "darkness", so christianity may seem like a fairy tale to you (compared to hinduism)

of course i don't say christianity has been flawless, on the contrary, there have been not a few flaws in it, anyway, the purpose of faith is not to rush into religious demagogy(remember "gog and magog"), either we practice the faith right or we can only waste our time with spiritual unrighteousness

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

Your understanding and knowledge of world history leaves much to be desired.
I could write a lengthy post about the dynamics of civilization, the influence of commerce, and an outline of colonialism. But since even the bare basics seem to be missing, it'd be so much work that I simply encourage you to read up on it - or else watch the "Crash Course" on YouTube for a less demanding approach.

you get information from the world, i enjoy the truth of the true One, and i don't see who prevents e.g. the hindus from being faithful to the true One when they can at any time begin and continue being faithful to Him if they decide to do it, but unfortunately they have preferred having all that lie to having the perfect truth of the true One, and guiltiest of that are their clerics... - i don't condemn anybody...

Blessings

 

[toLiJC]

How did I not "really 'go' to him"?

did the prophet of God, Jonah, explain to the worshipers of nineveh why or how they sin?!, no, but he just said one very simple sentence to them, namely: "Forty more days and Nineveh will be overthrown."(Jonah 3:4), and they repented of their spiritual unrighteousness/lawlessness - the religious worshiper is the one who has to understand why and how or at least to repent

Blessings