WHY SALVATION CAN BE LOST

[Faithful777]

Proverbs 22:11 He that loveth pureness of heart, for the grace of his lips the king shall be his friend.


1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
24 For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:
25 But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Ok thanks for that @Faithful777. Now what does anything you have posted here have to do with the OP?

 

[Faithful777]

Ok thanks for that @Faithful777. Now what this anything you have posted here have to do with the OP?

My last posting was two verses of scripture, and all scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. You should not need to ask what it has to do with the OP, unless the OP has nothing to do with it..



2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

My last posting was two verses of scripture, and all scripture is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. You should not need to ask what it has to do with the OP, unless the OP has nothing to do with it..
2 Timothy 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

Your posts had nothing to do with the OP that I could see that was why I was asking you what does your posts have to do with the OP.

 

[Faithful777]

Your posts had nothing to do with the OP that I could see that was why I was asking you what does your posts have to do with the OP.

Yes, from what you could see, and from what I could see( all scriptures) they were all to do with it.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Yes, from what you could see, and from what I could see( all scriptures) they were all to do with it.

Ok well I do not see that you have posted anything here to do with the OP. Would you like to explain how what you have posted in any of your posts discusses anything in this OP so I can understand what you are talking about?

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

If salvation could be lost, then we would all lose it because everybody is a sinner. Every person probably sins every single day.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

If salvation could be lost, then we would all lose it because everybody is a sinner. Every person probably sins every single day.

God's salvation is conditional on believing and following what Gods' Word says to the end (present tense) *see John 3:31; James 1:12; Matthew 10:22.

 

[testifier_uk]

James 1, 12-15 shows temptation, for men to be drawn away, to bring forth sin and that being death.

The sin that every person does every single day, is them being dead in sins.

That is for those who do not believe in Jesus rising ( by showing the righteousness of the risen Lord in their life of faith in Him) and why whatsoever is not of faith, is sin..




John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Romans 14:23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

James 1:12 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.
13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

God's salvation is conditional on believing and following what Gods' Word says to the end (present tense) *see John 3:31; James 1:12; Matthew 10:22.

So you couldn't refute my statement? According to the Bible we're all sinners and have come short of the glory of God. If you could lose salvation, everybody would lose it.

 

[testifier_uk]

Sin is unbelief in the Lord being risen, and belief in Him cant be sin.

 

[testifier_uk]

All do come short of the glory of God, and He justifies us by believing in the risen Lord, and those He justifies He stops falling short of the glory of God by gloryfying them ( in faith which is without sin)

Romans 4:25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

So you couldn't refute my statement? According to the Bible we're all sinners and have come short of the glory of God. If you could lose salvation, everybody would lose it.

Hebrews 6:4-8; Hebrews 10:26-31. - Refuted.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

Hebrews 6:4-8; Hebrews 10:26-31. - Refuted.

Those are such easy scriptures to understand and the first one is not even talking about saved people at all.

 

[testifier_uk]

All scripture talks of all people equally.

All are saved by grace, and all need to continue in that grace to not turn it into vanity.


If you could not lose salvation, there would be no word of faith, faith is in hoping against hope, and not being faithless.

That is why many are called and few chosen, it is a refining process for God to make up His jewels and to get rid of all that offends and works iniquity..



Malachi 3:17 And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

Matthew 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

 

[Sunshinee777]

Yes, from what you could see, and from what I could see( all scriptures) they were all to do with it.

Totally agree with you. Very well said.

 

[testifier_uk]

Totally agree with you. Very well said.

Proverbs 15:23 A man hath joy by the answer of his mouth: and a word spoken in due season, how good is it!

Luke 7:35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Totally agree with you. Very well said.

You agree with what exactly?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

Those are such easy scriptures to understand and the first one is not even talking about saved people at all.

I agree they are easy scriptures to understand. They are talking about people who were saved and choose to depart the faith and lost their salvation (Hebrews 6:4-8; Hebrews 10:26-31). So much for the false teachings of once saved always saved.

 

[BibleBeliever1611]

I agree they are easy scriptures to understand. They are talking about people who were saved and choose to depart the faith and lost their salvation (Hebrews 6:4-8; Hebrews 10:26-31). So much for the false teachings of once saved always saved.

Hebrews 6:4-8 is talking about unsaved people who were enlightened about the truth and then chose to fall away by rejecting the gospel. They were never saved in the first place.