Why people reject the reality of Hell

Lazarus Short said:

Ho Hum - try First Corinthians 3:15

Further, if anyone is still dead and/or in "hell," explain to me how God makes the famous boast in First Corinthians 15:55.

Even further, explain to me how God becomes All in all (First Corinthians 15:28) if anyone is still dead and/or in "hell."

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Kylism said:

I see 1 Co 3:15 is referring to believers only as 1Co 3:9 states "For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building." With that I also see Rev 2:11 "...Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death". So those not found in book of life are in lake of fire (or loose wording for me 'hell' as you use it).

I think death's sting is removed by Christ mentioned in 1 Cor 15:57. Also again this is referring to believers mentioned few verses earlier. "1Co 15:49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly."

So again those not found in book of life are in lake of fire. These verses do not support the idea you seem to state that no one is going to hell (your word).

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wendykvw said:

I appreciate your thoughts. As Paul states it was Christ and His faithfulness. So many times believers in Christ take credit for their faith, but like Paul, it is truly a gift. Not that we loved Him, but rather He loved us first so no one can boast.
The second death is the death of all the fall in Eden brought. Hell, the grave, sin, death. It will all be done away with, and things will be made new. And just as in the beginning before the deception of Satan, all things will be restored as the paradise of Eden that Adam and Even partook before the fall.

19For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, 20and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or-things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross. Colossians 1:20

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Kylism said:

I see 1 Co 3:15 is referring to believers only as 1Co 3:9 states "For we are God's fellow workers; you are God's field, God's building." With that I also see Rev 2:11 "...Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt at all by the second death". So those not found in book of life are in lake of fire (or loose wording for me 'hell' as you use it).

I think death's sting is removed by Christ mentioned in 1 Cor 15:57. Also again this is referring to believers mentioned few verses earlier. "1Co 15:49 Just as we have borne the image of the earthy, we will also bear the image of the heavenly."

So again those not found in book of life are in lake of fire. These verses do not support the idea you seem to state that no one is going to hell (your word).

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wendykvw said:

Actually I do believe people will enter hell, lake of fire, or Gehenna. Different English words, but ultimately same place. The fire represents God, judgement. The fire purges away all the ugliness that sin brought into the world; Wickedness, death etc it will be removed permanently.

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wendykvw said:

Moses asked to be removed from the book of life. I do not believe that if lof was eternal torment or annihilation Moses would ask to be removed from the book of life. Moses understood, God was just in all His ways.

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wendykvw said:

Moses asked to be removed from the book of life. I do not believe that if lof was eternal torment or annihilation Moses would ask to be removed from the book of life. Moses understood, God was just in all His ways.

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Kylism said:

I am a little confused. I have our thoughts to share but I would rather have understanding before I continue.

Why would Moses not say that? What difference would of made if lake of fire is a place of torment?

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GTW27 said:

Moses did what The Lord expects from all His prophets, to put others, even before himself. The Lord is just in all His ways. The Lord also is about just weights and balances.There are two sides to a scale just as there are two sides to His Sword. Why has a doctrine by man come forward in here, that only brings one side of a scale and one side of a sword. Can not His Perfect balance be seen in His creation? Did He not give us the day as well as the night. Did He not give us a season of walking in the darkness(suffering) to offer us His light.(Behold I stand at the door and knock...)

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FineLinen said:

Not quite.

In our Pater death and hell (all four of them) are consummated

ALL

"That in the name of Jesus every knee should bow (ινα εν τω ονοματ Ιησου παν γονυ καμψη). First aorist active subjunctive of καμπτω, old verb, to bend, to bow, in purpose clause with ινα. Not perfunctory genuflections whenever the name of Jesus is mentioned, but universal acknowledgment of the majesty and power of Jesus who carries his human name and nature to heaven. This universal homage to Jesus is seen in Romans 8:22; Ephesians 1:20-22 and in particular Revelation 5:13.

Under the earth (καταχθονιων). Homeric adjective for departed souls, subterranean, simply the dead. Here only in the N.T. ~A.T. Robertson Word Pictures

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Der Alte said:

That ain't what Jesus said in Matthew 25:46 or Matthew 7:23.

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wendykvw said:

Christ warned those who do not prepare for His Kingdom will be in danger.
Example of the wise and foolish ones. The wise virgins, prepared for their bridegroom, the foolish ones did not.
Matthew 25:7-12
7Then all the virgins woke up and trimmed their lamps. 8The foolish ones said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil; our lamps are going out.’9‘No,’ said the wise ones, ‘or there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’10But while they were on their way to buy it, the bridegroom arrived. Those who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet, and the door was shut.11Later the other virgins arrived and said, ‘Lord, lord, open the door for us!’12But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I do not know you.’
Jesus Warns in Matthew 5:20-22
Matthew chapter 5
20For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. ......vs. 22.......Anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be subject to the fires of hell.
Christ warns in Luke, and many more.
Luke 12:47-48 Christ warns His followers once again, those who do not prepare for the Kingdom will be punished.
The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with few blows. From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked ” (Lk 12:47-48).

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Saint Steven said:

Actually, the Controversial Christian Theology area is a safe house for UR (Universal Redemption) This is THE place to discuss it with other Christians.

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FineLinen said:

Nonsense!

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FineLinen said:

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Search = "eternal torment"

There are no references in the KJB for eternal torment.
Please try again.

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Trivalee said:

If you say so...

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Trivalee said:

What does torment forever and ever mean, if not 'eternal torment'?

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