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You see NOTHING that indicates to you that a creator exists?
 
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God the Father used God the Son and God the Holy Spirit to make man.
 
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You see NOTHING that indicates to you that a creator exists?
I see many things that can be explained by a Existence of a Creator.. But nothing that has been given alternate explanations by people who reject the existence of God.. So when it comes to arguments for and against the existence of God using observable things within this universe i find that the arguments lead to a stalemate... Which in the end is what the determined Atheist really wants.. And in a way God allows..

Because i believe God wants the critical moving tool to be His Message.. His WORD.. Those who love His truth He draws with His Holy Spirit into fellowship with Him.. So God can give those who embrace his will the signs and proofs ""for them"".. After near on 20 years doing this internet forum thing i know that i cannot debate or discuss a determined atheist into becoming a Christian.. It is the Holy Spirit that does the moving.. And if the Atheist hates the Message of God then the Holy Spirit will not be moving them...
 
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If I showed you the scriptures, you wouldn't accept it. YOUR fathers don't allow you to.
 
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If I showed you the scriptures, you wouldn't accept it. YOUR fathers don't allow you to.

Wait.. I'm not the one claiming scripture is inacurate, YOU ARE.
So why would you even atempt to show me scripture to "accept", when you believe it is in error in the first place?
 
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"And the archons took him and placed him in paradise. And they said to him, 'Eat, that is at leisure,' for their luxury is bitter and their beauty is depraved. And their luxury is deception and their trees are godlessness and their fruit is deadly poison and their promise is death. And the tree of their life they had placed in the midst of paradise.


"And I shall teach you (pl.) what is the mystery of their life, which is the plan which they made together, which is the likeness of their spirit. The root of this (tree) is bitter and its branches are death, its shadow is hate and deception is in its leaves, and its blossom is the ointment of evil, and its fruit is death and desire is its seed, and it sprouts in darkness. The dwelling place of those who taste from it is Hades, and the darkness is their place of rest.


"But what they call the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which is the Epinoia of the light, they stayed in front of it in order that he (Adam) might not look up to his fullness and recognize the nakedness of his shamefulness. But it was I who brought about that they ate."


And to I said to the savior, "Lord, was it not the serpent that taught Adam to eat?" The savior smiled and said, "The serpent taught them to eat from wickedness of begetting, lust, (and) destruction, that he (Adam) might be useful to him. And he (Adam) knew that he was disobedient to him (the chief archon) due to light of the Epinoia which is in him, which made him more correct in his thinking than the chief archon. And (the latter) wanted to bring about the power which he himself had given him. And he brought a forgetfulness over Adam."- Secret John

The world came about through a mistake. For he who created it wanted to create it imperishable and immortal. He fell short of attaining his desire. For the world never was imperishable, nor, for that matter, was he who made the world. For things are not imperishable, but sons are. Nothing will be able to receive imperishability if it does not first become a son. But he who has not the ability to receive, how much more will he be unable to give?- Gospel of Philip

 
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You have photos prior to two thousand years ago? A three thousand year old shred of sandle perhaps. Why do you assume he has dissapeared.
Because there was never any spirit like being who has existed. That would be polytheistic And a direct violation of God's commands not to worship other gods.
 
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If you read Deut. 32 & Psalm 82 they both imply that the nations were put under the supervision of created beings, lower case gods. Still only one YHWH. And yes they were not to be worshipped. You can guess what happened. Gods responce is in Psalm 82 also. This is the thesis of Dr. Micheal Hieser. And the subject of two of his books. Excuse my spelling atrocities. Have a good one.
 
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2 Corinthians 4:6
 
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2 Corinthians 4:6
 
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Isn't it strange that no devils or demons have appeared for 2000 years? Have you seen any? If so, prove it; photos, documentation, etc.
If God is in control, why after ions of time, has He not taken control of Satan and stopped the ongoing torture of the human race? Would not a truly loving God have dealt with this evil long,long ago?
 
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If God is in control, why after ions of time, has He not taken control of Satan and stopped the ongoing torture of the human race? Would not a truly loving God have dealt with this evil long,long ago?
If we knew the end from the beginning as He does and could see the Divine purpose of this earth being under satans control as long it has, we would fall on our faces, thanking Him for the suffering we have endured in this great controversy.

What is happening here is being observed by the rest of God's creation throughout the universe, from the moment Eve ate of the fruit to the pain, suffering, death and destruction that comes as a result of sin. We will the be living oracles of God's Love throughout eternity so that sin could not rise again.
 
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Isn't it strange that no devils or demons have appeared for 2000 years? Have you seen any? If so, prove it; photos, documentation, etc.
Interesting question....You already know that science cannot prove the existence of the spirit world...
As Jesus said my friend...You cannot see the wind but you can see what it does...You cannot see demons but you can see what they do. Selah
 
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If God is in control, why after ions of time, has He not taken control of Satan and stopped the ongoing torture of the human race? Would not a truly loving God have dealt with this evil long,long ago?
Simply put...God is not in control in the Earth. His kids, the Christians are....Unfortunately they don't take control. Its like so....God owns the store....He leased it to us to manage......And that lease is about to run out. How are we going to explain why we sat with our heads in the sand, like the Ostrich people?
 
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It was for not obeying God's commands
 
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