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Why Kamala’s Campaign Is Spiraling Into Desperation Mode

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I see now why Hamster was confused. RileyG said White House in their reply to me and Hamster interjected with Oval Office.
I brought up Oval Office because she does in her platform. Yet I keep being told she really doesn’t do much that she can be held accountable for.
 
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That’s isn’t the White House, and definitely not the Oval Office.
The VP doesn't work in the Oval office, but does work down the hall elsewhere on the same floor of the West Wing.
 
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The VP doesn't work in the Oval office, but does work down the hall elsewhere on the same floor of the West Wing.
Not sure why since I’m told she no responsibility except being there if the president can’t perform his duties. That is what I’ve been told by those who don’t want her to look at her accomplishments. Her and Biden have said otherwise.
 
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But she is definitely a modern day anomaly.

She works hand in hand with the President on a daily basis, but has no responsibility for anything that happened unless it is good news to her politically - she is the only politician who went from the worst VP in history to the best candidate all in less than 48 hours - she runs a campaign based on policies her opponent has done and spoken about and has no contact with the press who self flagellate over her every word. She thinks she can win by changing direction 180 degrees on policies she has supported for years, and the mindless believe every word uttered in her favor.
 
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But she is definitely a modern day anomaly.

She works hand in hand with the President on a daily basis, but has no responsibility for anything that happened unless it is good news to her politically - she is the only politician who went from the worst VP in history to the best candidate all in less than 48 hours - she runs a campaign based on policies her opponent has done and spoken about and has no contact with the press who self flagellate over her every word. She thinks she can win by changing direction 180 degrees on policies she has supported for years, and the mindless believe every word uttered in her favor.
Worse than Spiro Agnew? I don’t buy that.
 
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Worse than Spiro Agnew? I don’t buy that.
Let me see - - --

hmm... modern day anomaly - - - no responsibility for anything - - from worst vp to best candidate in 48 hours - - - hmmm - - reading - reading reading

nope - Spiro Agnew not mentioned -

Kamala Harris receives worst vice presidential rating in NBC News poll's history


NBC News said Harris' net -17 rating was the lowest rating for a vice president in the history of its poll​


NBC News reported on Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris has the dubious distinction of having the lowest net-negative rating of modern vice presidents in the history of their polling.

According to a new NBC News poll, only 32% of registered voters have a positive view of Harris, compared to 49% with a negative view, including 39% with a "very negative view." This leaves Harris with a net -17 rating, which NBC News noted is "the lowest for any vice president in the poll’s history."

Harris' -17 net rating lined up against the last four vice presidents during their tenures, with Mike Pence -4 in Oct. 2019, Joe Biden +1 in Dec. 2010, Dick Cheney +23 in May 2003, and Al Gore +15 in March 1995.
 
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Let me see - - --

hmm... modern day anomaly - - - no responsibility for anything - - from worst vp to best candidate in 48 hours - - - hmmm - - reading - reading reading

nope - Spiro Agnew not mentioned -

Kamala Harris receives worst vice presidential rating in NBC News poll's history


NBC News said Harris' net -17 rating was the lowest rating for a vice president in the history of its poll​


NBC News reported on Monday that Vice President Kamala Harris has the dubious distinction of having the lowest net-negative rating of modern vice presidents in the history of their polling.

According to a new NBC News poll, only 32% of registered voters have a positive view of Harris, compared to 49% with a negative view, including 39% with a "very negative view." This leaves Harris with a net -17 rating, which NBC News noted is "the lowest for any vice president in the poll’s history."

Harris' -17 net rating lined up against the last four vice presidents during their tenures, with Mike Pence -4 in Oct. 2019, Joe Biden +1 in Dec. 2010, Dick Cheney +23 in May 2003, and Al Gore +15 in March 1995.
I don’t care about public opinion polls. Spiro Agnew was a criminal and crook. VP Harris made a career out of putting criminals in jail. There’s no way she’s a worse VP than a criminal but you’ll be voting a criminal for president in November so I guess it’s no surprise you don’t see any problem with that.

In 1973, Agnew was investigated by the United States Attorney for the District of Maryland on suspicion of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud. Agnew took kickbacks from contractors during his time as Baltimore county executive and governor of Maryland. The payments had continued into his time as vice president, but had nothing to do with the Watergate scandal, in which he was not implicated. After months of maintaining his innocence, Agnew pleaded no contest to a single felony charge of tax evasion and resigned from office.

 
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I don’t care about public opinion polls. Spiro Agnew was a criminal and crook. VP Harris made a career out of putting criminals in jail. There’s no way she’s a worse VP than a criminal but you’ll be voting a criminal for president in November so I guess it’s no surprise you don’t see any problem with that.

In 1973, Agnew was investigated by the United States Attorney for the District of Maryland on suspicion of criminal conspiracy, bribery, extortion, and tax fraud. Agnew took kickbacks from contractors during his time as Baltimore county executive and governor of Maryland. The payments had continued into his time as vice president, but had nothing to do with the Watergate scandal, in which he was not implicated. After months of maintaining his innocence, Agnew pleaded no contest to a single felony charge of tax evasion and resigned from office.

and cookies go well with cold milk.
 
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and cookies go well with cold milk.
Do they? Idk how that’s relevant to the discussion on bad VPs I thought we were having but it looks like you’re done with this discussion.
 
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Appealed is past tense - meaning an appeal that went through.
Yes for being past tense, but appealed means that someone has appealed something. Not that he will appeal it in the future or is in the process of doing so. It tells nothing of the result of the appeal. That's a different thing.
 
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Yes for being past tense, but appealed means that someone has appealed something. Not that he will appeal it in the future or is in the process of doing so. It tells nothing of the result of the appeal. That's a different thing.
Sorry but I'm not going to keep rewinding back to several days ago.
 
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