Why is God so hidden? Why must we seek Him to Find Him?

[Extraneous]

I answered, but you said I did not.

Some people argue just to argue.

 

[SteveB28]

I assume your life must be dull. Have a nice day.

I accept your surrender.

 

[Extraneous]

I accept your surrender.

I see it as my victory.

 

[SteveB28]

What is what the OP is doing. And I have provided the answer according to Christian theology.

You answered nothing. You made another series of unsupported claims. That Satan 'wants faith'. That 'superiors' want faith. But you offer no evidence to support your claims!

Hint: that is not an answer!

 

[SteveB28]

I see it as my victory.

Yes I'm sure you do. But illusory thinking can never take the place of evidence and logic. You pluck claims from the air and expect people to simply accept them. Only in the arena of religious observance do people get away with such intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Extraneous]

Yes I'm sure you do. But illusory thinking can never take the place of evidence and logic. You pluck claims from the air and expect people to simply accept them. Only in the arena of religious observance do people get away with such intellectual dishonesty.

I follow the truth. Dishonesty goes against my grain. Your perception is blinded by misconception.

 

[SteveB28]

I follow the truth. Dishonesty goes against my grain. Your perception is blinded by misconception.

I ask just one straightforward question; viz:

Why is it that the principles of openness and honesty, so highly prized in all other human endeavours, are cast aside when it comes to religious observance, where hiddenness and lack of evidence are preferred?

NONE of you have answered this question. Instead, a combination of preaching and changing the subject. Why is that, do you think?

 

[Extraneous]

I ask just one straightforward question; viz:

Why is it that the principles of openness and honesty, so highly prized in all other human endeavours, are cast aside when it comes to religious observance, where hiddenness and lack of evidence are preferred?

NONE of you have answered this question. Instead, a combination of preaching and changing the subject. Why is that, do you think?

What do i think? I concluded that you were not interested in discussing faith in a rational manner.

 

[Davian]

What do i think? I concluded that you were not interested in discussing faith in a rational manner.

By "in a rational manner", do you mean "unquestioningly"?

 

[Extraneous]

By "in a rational manner", do you mean "unquestioningly"?

Its not rational to answer irrational questions.

 

[Moral Orel]

Why is it that the principles of openness and honesty, so highly prized in all other human endeavours, are cast aside when it comes to religious observance, where hiddenness and lack of evidence are preferred?

NONE of you have answered this question. Instead, a combination of preaching and changing the subject. Why is that, do you think?

What do i think? I concluded that you were not interested in discussing faith in a rational manner.

Esoteric Knowledge Gambit

 

[SteveB28]

What do i think? I concluded that you were not interested in discussing faith in a rational manner.

You claim to value honesty and yet here you are, obfuscating.

Wouldn't a more honest, open response be "I have no answer to your question"?

 

[Extraneous]

You claim to value honesty and yet here you are, obfuscating.

Wouldn't a more honest, open response be "I have no answer to your question"?

Obfuscating is not the correct word. That's actually what you are currently doing. You are hiding the fact that you cannot disprove faith, therefore you yell at it, like an angry person, only you don't raise your voice, you instead use incessant wrangling.

 

[SteveB28]

Esoteric Knowledge Gambit

Well observed Mr Deka.

 

[SteveB28]

Obfuscating is not the correct word. That's actually what you are currently doing. You are hiding the fact that you cannot disprove faith, therefore you yell at it, like an angry person, only you don't raise your voice, you instead use incessant wrangling.

I'm simply asking a question which you refuse to address.

Now, as I said earlier, if you were as honest as you boast, you would acknowledge your avoidance.

 

[Extraneous]

I'm simply asking a question which you refuse to address.

Now, as I said earlier, if you were as honest as you boast, you would acknowledge your avoidance.

What will you gain in this discussion? Will you save humanity from religion? Friend, you cannot save that which is already saved.

 

[Davian]

Its not rational to answer irrational questions.

It's not rational to expect your religious assertions to go unquestioned in a philosophy forum, your opinions of the questions notwithstanding.

 

[Davian]

Some people argue just to argue.

Or, what they are doing is sometimes referred to as the Socratic method.

"Socratic method, also known as maieutics, method of elenchus, elenctic method, or Socratic debate, is named after the classical Greek philosopher Socrates. Elenchus is a form of cooperative argumentative dialogue between individuals, based on asking and answering questions to stimulate critical thinking and to draw out ideas and underlying presumptions. It is a dialectical method, often involving a discussion in which the defense of one point of view is questioned; one participant may lead another to contradict themselves in some way, thus weakening the defender's point."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socratic_method

Pretend that you are in a philosophy forum.

 

[Extraneous]

It's not rational to expect your religious assertions to go unquestioned in a philosophy forum, your opinions of the questions notwithstanding.

Im not worried.

 

[Extraneous]

Pretend that you are in a philosophy forum.

Or you could just stop responding to me. That would work equally as well.