Why is evolution taught in our schools?

[YeshuaFan]

When you post like this it only tells us that you have no idea of what you are arguing about. There are countless transitional fossils. So many that almost all fossils are considered to be transitional today.

Learn the terminology, and then see if there is evidence for it or not. Also you probably need to learn what is and what is not evidence. The concept is very simple and is in my sig.

Again, there have been no transistion species ever recorded down to us, nor sen as evidenced around us today.
When did the any animal change from one species into another?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Again, there have been no transistion species ever recorded down to us, nor sen as evidenced around us today.
When did the any animal change from one species into another?

Prove it. An unsupported statement is worth nothing in a debate and an inability to support such a claim is a tacit admission that one is wrong.

Animals do not "change species" in the sense that you appear to be using the phrase. New species arise. But there is no "change of kind". One cannot grow out of one's heritage. You evolved from apes and still are an ape. You evolved from mammals and still are a mammal. You are still a vertebrate and evolved from vertebrates.

 

[YeshuaFan]

Prove it. An unsupported statement is worth nothing in a debate and an inability to support such a claim is a tacit admission that one is wrong.

Animals do not "change species" in the sense that you appear to be using the phrase. New species arise. But there is no "change of kind". One cannot grow out of one's heritage. You evolved from apes and still are an ape. You evolved from mammals and still are a mammal. You are still a vertebrate and evolved from vertebrates.

Humans did not elvove, as we are direct and special creations of God! And all of the various kinds of animals, such as all of the breeds of dogs, sprung from the common ancestor created by God!

 

[Subduction Zone]

Humans did not elvove, as we are direct and special creations of God! And all of the various kinds of animals, such as all of the breeds of dogs, sprung from the common ancestor created by God!

That claim is worthless without some support. I could put exclamation points in a post "refuting" your claim by saying that we are the results of evolution. That claim would be just as worthless without support.

Do you have any support at all for your claims or can they be dismissed with a handwave?

We know what you believe, what one knows can be supported with evidence. What one believes sound like what yo are doing.

 

[YeshuaFan]

That claim is worthless without some support. I could put exclamation points in a post "refuting" your claim by saying that we are the results of evolution. That claim would be just as worthless without support.

Do you have any support at all for your claims or can they be dismissed with a handwave?

We know what you believe, what one knows can be supported with evidence. What one believes sound like what yo are doing.

I believe that the scriptures themselves are inspired by God, and as such, record to us that life was created by God, and all life after its own kind directly!

 

[DogmaHunter]

Except when there is evidence, it can no longer be called "faith,"

First of all, that doesn't answer the question.
There is no second of all.

I asked you: if not through evidence, then how do you find out of faith A or faith B is correct. How do you find out if any one of them is correct?

and without faith it is impossible to please God.

Then this God rewards gullibility while punishing rationality.
But more importantly, how do you find out if what you believe on faith is actually true? As opposed to being wrong or an alternative faith being true instead?

 

[DogmaHunter]

How do you "know" humans are not a separate act of creation?
Can you prove that with repeatability in a lab?

Dear lord.

How do you know humans weren't created 3 seconds ago, with the memories of having lived their entire lives?

There is only one correct answer to such questions: "go to bed".

 

[DogmaHunter]

Right I agree with you but we didn't evolve from them. When I was in school I was taught that we evolved from them because at the time scientists thought we did.

"at the time"

That made my day, lol

ow my

But yet there are many scientists out there trying to prove the existence of God.

So you keep claiming. Even after having been schooled on the subject. You don't care. You just continue with your false claims.

I'm not saying magic is real though. Magicicans deal worth illusion and don't actually have any magical powers.

You believe in powers that are capable of suspending, violating or changing physical and natural laws. That's magic by definition. You just call them "miracles". But they are the same thing.

 

[tas8831]

Yes, as the volume within the ark was enormous, and the need would be for only a male and female kittens and puppies,

And this is indicated in the bible where?
I saw a treatise on taking just the elephant kind on the ark, and allowing for their food and water would have taken up ~1/3 of the internal volume of the ark - and that was ONLY for the elephantids. Now add in bison, giraffids, etc...
Your ark sunk.

as the Dna for all of the kinds of cats and dogs would have been in their genes,

Evidence for this please.

so not really that much space required.

Well sure, if you go extra-biblical to come up with excuses and ignore food and water storage and excrement removal and all that...

Also, remember that God had all animals on plant food diet during that time,

How can I remember something for which there is ZERO evidence? More extra-biblical apologetics based on desperation?

so lions and lambs would lie down next to each other!

Right before the starving lions ate the lambs...

 

[tas8831]

When did the any animal change from one species into another?

Interesting question coming from the fellow that recently wrote this:


"the Dna for all of the kinds of cats and dogs would have been in their genes, so not really that much space required [on the ark]"

You tell us, since you seem to think that it all happened within the last few thousand years.

 

[tas8831]

A mindset that does not try to explain the supernatural events in scripture via natural forces.

Unlike a number of my colleagues, I DO think that supernatural events can be investigated.
That is to say, much like we can investigate and explain un-repeatable phenomena like volcanic eruptions by virtue of the fact that such events leave behind evidence, we should also be able to to at least some of the same investigation on supernatural events. After all, if they actual happened, we should be able to find some evidence.
No evidence of a world-wide flood within the last 4500 years, check that one off.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe that the scriptures themselves are inspired by God, and as such, record to us that life was created by God, and all life after its own kind directly!

Yes, we know what you believe, can you support your belief? I know that life is the product of evolution because I can support my belief with reliable verifiable evidence.

 

[YeshuaFan]

And this is indicated in the bible where?
I saw a treatise on taking just the elephant kind on the ark, and allowing for their food and water would have taken up ~1/3 of the internal volume of the ark - and that was ONLY for the elephantids. Now add in bison, giraffids, etc...
Your ark sunk.


Evidence for this please.

Well sure, if you go extra-biblical to come up with excuses and ignore food and water storage and excrement removal and all that...


How can I remember something for which there is ZERO evidence? More extra-biblical apologetics based on desperation?


Right before the starving lions ate the lambs...

The animals would have just needed to be infants versions, not fully grown adults! And per the Bible, there were no meat eaters until after the Flood, so leo and porky got along really well!

 

[YeshuaFan]

Yes, we know what you believe, can you support your belief? I know that life is the product of evolution because I can support my belief with reliable verifiable evidence.

When were you able to observe life originated out of no life situation then?
For that matter, have you even seen someone resurrected from the dead, or to be God as a man among us?

 

[Subduction Zone]

When were you able to observe life originated out of no life situation then?
For that matter, have you even seen someone resurrected from the dead, or to be God as a man among us?

I thought that the topic was evolution. What you are doing now is moving the goal posts. I will gladly discuss abiogenesis with you once you admit that evolution is a fact.

And no, I have never observed a man resurrected from the dead and there are no reliable accounts of that ever happening. Why did you even bring that up? Are you trying to disprove your own faith?

The reason that evolution is included in high school curricula is because it is based upon reliable repeatable evidence. Until creationists come up with the same it cannot be taught in schools.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The animals would have just needed to be infants versions, not fully grown adults! And per the Bible, there were no meat eaters until after the Flood, so leo and porky got along really well!

But we know that is not true. Fossils that are millions of years old show signs of predation. And a flood that added five vertical miles of water to the Earth would leave a sign. Why is there no sign of a flood on the Earth? The flood was demonstrated not to have occurred long before evolution came along.

 

[Aman777]

Yeah, I saw that post too. You either misunderstood the simple question that I asked you or deliberately obfuscated, either way you failed to answer it. Since this thread is about evolution taught in public schools, not colleges, I was asking you about your own K-12 education, not about your alleged PhD in "creation."

Then try your best to show everyone my error either Scripturally, scientifically or historically. My PhD thesis has never been refuted in any way but I would absolutely love for you to try. God bless you

 

[Aman777]

A story is not an explanation.

A story which agrees in every way with every discovery of mankind, like the one written in Genesis, changes from faith to fact in the last days of this earth. Daniel 12:4

 

[Aman777]

Why is there no sign of a flood on the Earth?

It's because Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood which sank the first Heaven/firmament in the waters of Lake Van, Turkey, some 11k years ago. The present Earth did NOT suffer a Global Flood but Adam's sure did. 2 Peter 3:6

 

[Sparagmos]

False, since the Big Bang happened on the 3rd Day. Genesis 2:4 The first Day/Age began some 9 Billion years BEFORE the BB.

I wasn’t promoting the Big Bang theory, just saying it addresses the origins of the universe. I don’t think it matters because you are referring to the Bible in a discussion on science, and saying you have a PHD in creation... which is pretty silly.