Why is evolution taught in our schools?

[DogmaHunter]

so a watch that is made from wood (biological watch) isnt a watch since its made from biological components too?

No, that's still a mechanical watch.

A biological watch does not exist.
A biological entity is an entity that is alive, biologically reproduces, consumes food, etc.

A wooden watch is still a device with gears and stuff and mechanical inner workings.
The inner workings of a wooden watch, is not done through bio-chemistry.


Your analogies are ridiculous and it has been explained time and again to you why.

That you are so dense to ignore all those explanations and just continue repeating the same nonsense, is your problem - not ours.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Christianity is not a religion

Keep telling yourself that.
But you'll just miss the fact that you're wrong about that as well.

, which is man's attempt to know God. Christianity is God in you, the hope of Glory. Religion teaches that you must be good but Christianity shows that you cannot be good while in the flesh. That's WHY Jesus had to die. Amen?

I don't share your fantasies.
And ironically enough, most christians don't either.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Not really.

Yes, really.
Whatever you wrote there was as random as it gets.

Just pointing out what evolutionists and Trumper's preach about other Humans. Send 15,000 troops to the border to keep the "animals" away from our rich hind ends, they whine. In the end they will throw their money into the streets.

How you came to the conclusion that I am a Trump supporter, or that I think the way he's handling immigration is ok, is beyond me.

But whatever. I know by now that you're not at all ashamed to simply brutally lie about people. And yes, I get to say "lie", because you have already tried to call me a Trump supporter just a week or so ago and I corrected you then as well.

Since you are such a fan of the bible - perhaps read the section that talks about bearing false witness one of these days.

Spoiler alert: it says don't do it.

 

[DogmaHunter]

No threats since the increased punishment is promised by Jesus Christ, your Judge at the Judgment. You are without excuse.

Trying to threaten an atheist with your particular religious beliefs in hell-ish punishments, is like trying to scare an adult by threatening him with "santa's not going to bring you any presents".

When a Hindu comes up to you threatening you that you'll reincarnate as some vermin or such, I'm sure you'll just shrug your shoulders as well.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Well, what if you're wrong?

I don't think that that is a possibility he considers.

 

[DogmaHunter]

so if a watch isnt able to reproduce its a watch, but if it can then its not?

Watches do not reproduce.
Watches are mechanical devices.
Mechanical devices do not reproduce.

No matter what imaginary watch you have in mind.
It doesn't exist.

Try to use real-world examples when arguing by analogy.
Because at this point, you are just arguing by fantastical imagination.

 

[DogmaHunter]

If I'm wrong and unbelievers are correct, I won't know anything.....BUT...If I'm correct, there will be hell for someone to pay.

Except if the muslims are correct. Or the hindu's. Or any other religion then christianity.
Then it's you that will be "paying hell", along with all your fellow christians.
So what now?

Is it sinking in that this line of argumentation isn't very helpfull?

My view is a cure for those who wake up and are caught in the Snare of the flood.

Only if you are actually correct in your views - which your fellow christians themselves don't even seem to agree with.

Most don't know about the Trap which catches evolutionists in the end. Do you?

Demonstrate that this "trap" exists.
Simply stating that you "believe" it, isn't enough.

 

[AV1611VET]

Trying to threaten ...

And where does academia draw the line between "threatening" and "warning"?

I'll take a guess and say: at the Bible.

Acts 20:31 Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.

I suppose I'll have to put "threaten" on my list of plutoed terms:

1. miracle to magic
2. child in the womb to fetus
3. kind to genus
4. warn to threaten

 

[DogmaHunter]

Okay. Can you explain WHY Jesus had to die if man could be saved without His death?

Loaded question. You assume man needs any saving to begin with.
Which is part of your religious doctrine.

You'ld first have to establish the truth value of that premise - without using the bible or you're back in circular land.

Good luck with that.

Stick around and you will see that God's Truth leads to life while man's great knowledge leads to death.

Man's great knowledge trippled life expectancy in only 2 centuries.
While millenia of "religious knowledge" before that was barely able to get it over 30.

So the opposite of your statement seems to be true...

 

[AV1611VET]

Watches do not reproduce.

Neither does dust.

 

[loveofourlord]

Darwin theorized that apes, monkeys and humans must have a common ancestor because of the similarities between us. Make of this what you will but those who study his theory don't believe he is saying we evolved from apes or monkeys.
When someone refers to miracles as magic I ask why they think that and then I listen. I may or may not continue a conversation about that. Some people love to debate with Christians and it becomes pointless quickly. You will find yourself going down one rabbit trail after another and it will never end. No point for me, I don't need to win debates or be right. At that point it becomes about ME and not about sharing the gospel.
I have also been asked about "my imaginary friend in the sky" had my intelligence questioned and all sorts of other things. I do my best not to take the bait.

well it would have too, since we split off from old world monkeys after they split from new world monkeys.

 

[Aman777]

Aman777 said: ↑
Show us one [religion] who told us scientific facts, which have only been recently confirmed by Science, more than 3k years ago. You cannot but Genesis can and does. It's proof of God which He told us He was going to reveal in the last days.

There are no such scientific facts in the Bible. You misinterpret both science and the Bible to make this claim of yours. You have nothing. And until you learn what science is, how it is done, what evidence is and what is not evidence and last of all what the Bible actually says you will always have nothing.

Genesis 1:1 shows us what Einstein discovered 100 years ago.
Genesis 2:4 shows us that we live in a multiverse.
Genesis 1:16 shows an enormous length of time between the bb and the first Stars.
Genesis 2:7 refutes the false ToE which cannot explain the first evolved beings start.
Genesis 1:21 shows WHERE and WHEN creatures appeared so evolution could begin
Genesis 6:4 shows why today's Humans have the DNA of prehistoric people
Genesis 1:28 tells us of future Human rule over the Earth

All of them together present a reality which is beyond man's flawed assumptions. Can you refute a single one of those scientific Facts discovered recently? IF not, then it is empirical (testable) scientific evidence of the Literal God. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

This is why religions in general tend to warn against testing one's faith or holy books

No, that's why I post that God's Truth MUST agree with science and history in every way, since it was authored by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth. If your interpretation doesn't, God the Holy Spirit didn't write it, because He IS God and incapable of error. Tell us of a single "religion" which teaches the latest scientific discoveries in its FIRST verse and chapter in Genesis. You cannot since there is but One God, One Truth and One Spirit.

 

[Aman777]

I don't share your fantasies.
And ironically enough, most christians don't either.

Does that mean that you believe the world began 6k years ago?

 

[Aman777]

How you came to the conclusion that I am a Trump supporter, or that I think the way he's handling immigration is ok, is beyond me.

It could be the arrogance exhibited by many people who actually believe that Humans are "animals" as Trump and evolutionism falsely preaches.

But whatever. I know by now that you're not at all ashamed to simply brutally lie about people. And yes, I get to say "lie", because you have already tried to call me a Trump supporter just a week or so ago and I corrected you then as well.

Your posts are not that memorable. I have a tendency to think of some as Trumpers as evolutionists because of their falsehoods and made-up bovine excrement.

Since you are such a fan of the bible - perhaps read the section that talks about bearing false witness one of these days.

Arrogance is sometimes exhibited by those who falsely judge others. I'm just happy that Jesus is the Judge and He loves me. Picture me as a Duck, with water rolling off its back. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

When a Hindu comes up to you threatening you that you'll reincarnate as some vermin or such, I'm sure you'll just shrug your shoulders as well.

No. I would ask him how many Heavens God made in the beginning. IF he does not know that, then he is following a misinterpretation of God's Truth which agrees with every other discovered Truth, in every way....like you do.

 

[Aman777]

I don't think that that is a possibility he considers.

False. I've been asking the same thing online, in evolution vs. creation boards, for more than 25 years. and NO evolutionist has EVER refuted God's Truth, a single time. As a mortal, i'm sure that I'm wrong in some way, but no one can show me, including you. We may just have to wait for Jesus to explain. Amen?

 

[Aman777]

Except if the muslims are correct. Or the hindu's. Or any other religion then christianity.

Impossible, since none of the religions you list tell us of recent scientific discoveries. Only God does, in Genesis.

Demonstrate that this "trap" exists.
Simply stating that you "believe" it, isn't enough.

Sure. On the 150th day after the flood began, the Ark was above the highest mountains of Adam's Earth Genesis 7:20-24 AND the Ark was resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the same 150th day after the flood began. Genesis 8:4

Gen 8:1 ¶ And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters asswaged;

The verse above uses a word used sparingly in Scripture. It's NOT the word assuaged but instead the Hebrew word asswaged which can mean "to set a trap to catch men". Here is how the word asswaged (shakak Strong's H7918) is used in Jeremiah.

Jer 5:26 For among my people are found wicked men: they lay wait, as He that setteth H7918 snares; they set a trap, they catch men.

Can you tell us which usage of this word, in context, just AFTER the Ark was above the highest mountains on Adam's Earth but BEFORE it rested upon the mountains of Ararat? Did God set a trap or Snare to catch men with the flood?

Isa 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.
Isa 24:18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. Isa 24:19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. Isa 24:20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

The Snare which catches men who come out of Hell (the pit) is the flood. After escaping Hell, these people are caught in the Trap of not believing that Adam's Earth was totally destroyed in the flood. This matches the Scoffers of the last days who are "willingly ignorant" that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. 2 Peter 3:3-6

Beware of offending little ones, who believe in Jesus, by destroying their faith and teaching them that they are nothing but evolved Apes, since they are actually the children of Jesus. That's the Snare which evolutionists fall into at the Judgment. The Snare contains the harshest punishment in Scripture for people, according to Jesus.

 

[Aman777]

Loaded question. You assume man needs any saving to begin with.

Only if you wish to go to Heaven. Otherwise, disobeying even one of God's commandments, will send you to where you don't want to be. IOW, you are without excuse, so enjoy eternal punishment as long as you can before bowing those knees and begging for mercy.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Only if you wish to go to Heaven. Otherwise, disobeying even one of God's commandments, will send you to where you don't want to be. IOW, you are without excuse, so enjoy eternal punishment as long as you can before bowing those knees and begging for mercy.

There is no heaven. There is no hell. Try again.