Why is evolution taught in our schools?

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Aman777 said: ↑
Christianity is not a religion, which is man's attempt to know God. Christianity is God in you, the hope of Glory. Religion teaches that you must be good but Christianity shows that you cannot be good while in the flesh. That's WHY Jesus had to die. Amen?

Nope, it is a religion. It is a faith based belief. It is not based upon evidence. But then you won't even discuss the topic of evidence. Do you not even understand what a religion is?

Okay. Can you explain WHY Jesus had to die if man could be saved without His death?

He did not have to die. That is one of the failures of Christianity. People of that time had rather crude morals so they could not see the flaw in someone suffering for someone else.

Stick around and you will see that God's Truth leads to life while man's great knowledge leads to death.

Death is a given. That exists. There is no evidence of "God's Truth" whatever that is. Nor to your life after death.

 

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There is a third option: you are worshiping the wrong god.

And Christians could be a facing a worse "hell" than non-believers if there is a different god. Something that they do not seem to understand when they use Pascal's wager. It is why it is a failed argument. It is based upon a false dichotomy.

 

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How did you get such a ridiculous notion from my post? Sorry, but I thought you could read and comprehend English. I was wrong....unless you are being deceitful by parroting Trump. Who's this "We"? Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I assumed that you were thinking logically for once. Please forgive my error.

And I do not need to be deceitful. You are projecting again.

 

[Aman777]

There is a third option: you are worshiping the wrong god.

It's not an option for me since I know the only God ever formed physically or that ever will be formed physically. His name is Jesus Christ and in Him is all of the fullness of the Godhead bodily. Col 2:9

 

[Aman777]

And Christians could be a facing a worse "hell" than non-believers if there is a different god.

Show us one who told us scientific facts, which have only been recently confirmed by Science, more than 3k years ago. You cannot but Genesis can and does. It's proof of God which He told us He was going to reveal in the last days. Today, God is pouring out His Spirit of Truth through the discoveries of Science.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh:

All flesh includes atheists, agnostics and even evolutionists. So get ready to learn God's unchangeable Truth, which will soon replace the current flawed Theories of man.

 

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Nope, it is a religion. It is a faith based belief.

The faith to believe in the saving Gospel of Jesus Christ, is a Gift of God, not of ourselves. Your confusion is showing.

It is not based upon evidence. But then you won't even discuss the topic of evidence.

It's what I do and have done for many years. I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture, science and history and challenge anyone to refute God's Truth in any way...but none does....including you, but thanks for trying.

Do you not even understand what a religion is?

Sure, it's man's blind faith based on gut feelings. Christianity is based on evidence of things not seen. Heb 11:1 Only those who have been born Spiritually can possibly understand. Rom 8:9

He did not have to die. That is one of the failures of Christianity.

Then tell us HOW perfect Justice can be in a Heaven while all the sickness, suffering and death of mankind cries out for fairness and justice for their pain. ONLY the Creator, Who came to this Earth as Jesus Christ, and lived that perfect, sinless life the perfect God demands, could pay the penalty for the sinful deeds of mankind.

FYI. God knows the secret of Immortality and it is to be perfect even as He is perfect and without perfect Justice, God can never have a perfect Heaven.

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

 

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There is a third option: you are worshiping the wrong god.

What's His name, deist?

 

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Show us one who told us scientific facts, which have only been recently confirmed by Science, more than 3k years ago. You cannot but Genesis can and does. It's proof of God which He told us He was going to reveal in the last days. Today, God is pouring out His Spirit of Truth through the discoveries of Science.

Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh:

All flesh includes atheists, agnostics and even evolutionists. So get ready to learn God's unchangeable Truth, which will soon replace the current flawed Theories of man.

There are no such scientific facts in the Bible. You misinterpret both science and the Bible to make this claim of yours. You have nothing. And until you learn what science is, how it is done, what evidence is and what is not evidence and last of all what the Bible actually says you will always have nothing.

And reinterpreting Acts does not help your case either.

Why are you so afraid to learn? That indicates to me that you know that you are wrong. I would not be afraid to learn. If someone was willing to help me I would jump at the chance.

 

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What's His name, deist?

Why would a god need a name? Names are human inventions.

 

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The faith to believe in the saving Gospel of Jesus Christ, is a Gift of God, not of ourselves. Your confusion is showing.

Wrong again. I can support my claims. You can't. I am not the confused one here. There is a way to test if your claim is correct. How would you go about testing it?

It's what I do and have done for many years. I support what I post with the agreement of Scripture, science and history and challenge anyone to refute God's Truth in any way...but none does....including you, but thanks for trying.

Wrong, you demonstrate that you understand neither by quote mining verses that you do not understand since you lifted them out of context and you cherry pick science that you do not understand. Cherry picking of the sort that you do is not allowed in the sciences.

Sure, it's man's blind faith based on gut feelings. Christianity is based on evidence of things not seen. Heb 11:1 Only those who have been born Spiritually can possibly understand. Rom 8:9

And you just contradicted yourself again. That verse says that it is blind faith based on gut feelings. You simply could not interpret it properly.

Then tell us HOW perfect Justice can be in a Heaven while all the sickness, suffering and death of mankind cries out for fairness and justice for their pain. ONLY the Creator, Who came to this Earth as Jesus Christ, and lived that perfect, sinless life the perfect God demands, could pay the penalty for the sinful deeds of mankind.

The crucifixion was not just. You once again contradict yourself. And worse yet "justice" is not what is offered in the Bible to those that "sin". They are threatened with the worse sort of vengeance. That i is not just.

FYI. God knows the secret of Immortality and it is to be perfect even as He is perfect and without perfect Justice, God can never have a perfect Heaven.

1Co 15:26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

So God is not omnipotent. Glad to know that. And you keep forgetting, you are not advocating justice. You are advocating vengeance.

 

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Names are human inventions.

Really? then who are Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, and Legion?

 

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Sounds like you want me to pick and choose what went on back then.

So you're saying science is strong enough that I should allegorize Genesis 1, but not strong enough to say the Resurrection couldn't have happened as documented?

Science doesn't say there was no resurrection; science merely says it would take a miracle.

 

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Science doesn't say there was no resurrection;

How convenient ... who put the gag order on it? academia?

 

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What does any of this have to do with why evolution is taught in schools?

 

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Really? then who are Lucifer, Michael, Gabriel, and Legion?

Human inventions. Both the names and the "beings". No real difference between them and Odin, Loki, and Shiva.

 

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What does any of this have to do with why evolution is taught in schools?

It is a desperate attempt to change the subject.

 

[Paul of Eugene OR]

How convenient ... who put the gag order on it? academia?

Its a matter of definitions. Science is the study of natural phenomenon. So resurrection from the dead, being a faith based claim, does not fall under the purview of science. Oh sure, you can find a scientist who will deny it, or another who will affirm it, but when they do that they aren't doing science.

 

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How convenient ... who put the gag order on it? academia?

Science works with the observable and testable. How would you observed the resurrection? What reasonable test would refute it?

If you can't answer the last question then it is not something that science can deal with.

 

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Science works with the observable and testable.

Like the Big Bang?

How would you observed the resurrection?

By faith.

What reasonable test would refute it?

The Doubter's Test:

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

 

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Like the Big Bang?

The Big Bang is observable By the evidence it left behind. But then evidence is a concept that you do not seem to understand.

By faith.

Faith is not an observation. Another concept that you appear not to understand.

The Doubter's Test:

John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe.

And we have three quick fails. How is this test reasonable? How would you or anyone else replicate it? Now you have in effect said there is no valid reason for your beliefs.

This is why religions in general tend to warn against testing one's faith or holy books. Faith, or a lack of reliable reasons is why one believes. But since faith supports all faiths it is not a pathway to the truth.