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Why Is Darwinism So Dangerous? (5)

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PsychoSarah

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I think it is more like, they follow certain teachings of the bible, the one's they consider to be positive and they ignore everything else.

For one to follow "ALL" teachings of the bible, would require them to have multiple personalities.

They seem to mostly focus on Jesus and the New Testament more than anything else.
 
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I'm not a Christian atheist really, no, but I'd say it would be someone who views the whole bible as pure allegory, showing the growth of humanity from violent societies to greater acceptance of others, and driving people to spread such peace. Jesus in particular seems to be a character central to Christian atheists in terms of gaining wisdom from the bible.

I do however have some more conservative personal practices, such as I plan never to partake of alcohol, plan to remain abstinent until marriage. But to be frank this is just my personal choice, the bible didn't inspire it.

Ok, thanks for your view.
 
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They seem to mostly focus on Jesus and the New Testament more than anything else.

Yes and even the NT is cherry picked, but that is not unusual, as Christians do it as well.

Really, it is like any other book you can buy; some good stuff, some stuff not so good.
 
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Originally Posted by justlookinla
I don't think you're a Christian atheist, so you many not be able to answer this, but why would anyone value the bible enough to follow it's teaching, believe it enough to view it as truth, but not accept there's a deity, a higher power?
I'm not a Christian atheist really, no, but I'd say it would be someone who views the whole bible as pure allegory, showing the growth of humanity from violent societies to greater acceptance of others, and driving people to spread such peace. Jesus in particular seems to be a character central to Christian atheists in terms of gaining wisdom from the bible.....................
Alleghory is mentioned 1 time in the NT:

Galatian 4:
24 which-any is an allegory/allhgoroumena <238> (5746).
For these are the two Covenants, one indeed from mount Sinai into servitude generating/gennwsa <1080>, who-any is Hagar
30 but what saith the Writing? 'be Casting Out! the maid-servant and the son of her....
[Genesis 21:10]
Geneses 21:
9 And Sarah is seeing the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne for Abraham, mocking/laughing!
10 And she is saying to Abraham, "Drive out thou! this maid-servant, that not the son of this maid-servant shall tenant with the son of me, with Isaac.
[Galatian 4:30]

Allegory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Etymology

First attested in English 1382, the word allegory comes from Latin allegoria, the latinisation of the Greek &#7936;&#955;&#955;&#951;&#947;&#959;&#961;&#943;&#945; (allegoria), "veiled language, figurative",[1] from &#7940;&#955;&#955;&#959;&#962; (allos), "another, different"[2] + &#7936;&#947;&#959;&#961;&#949;&#973;&#969; (agoreuo), "to harangue, to speak in the assembly"[3] and that from &#7936;&#947;&#959;&#961;&#940; (agora), "assembly".[4].................



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What? -_- if you worship satan, that would be considered the worship of a deity, wouldn't it? Wouldn't the belief in satan render the atheist label non applicable? Unless you worship it without believing it exists.

You do know that the vast majority of Satanists do not worship Satan right? Satanism is an atheistic religion/philosophy. There is no worship, no metaphysics, no "spirituality", no gods, no demons and no supernatural.
Satanists who worship Satan is actually a rarity and I have only known 2 people who do this. Satanism is much like BUddhism in that it is a non-theistic religion.
I cannot believe you did not know his ^_^
 
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A Christian atheist is a person who follows the teachings of the bible, but doesn't believe god actually exists nor do they believe the miracles to be real.

But the prerequisite to be an actual Christian is belief in god. Buddhist, Daoist, and Satanists do not have this so you can be an atheist and still subscribe to these religions. You do not need a Jesus to teach a person morals. The only teachings Jesus taught where things we have innately.
 
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You do know that the vast majority of Satanists do not worship Satan right? Satanism is an atheistic religion/philosophy. There is no worship, no metaphysics, no "spirituality", no gods, no demons and no supernatural.
Satanists who worship Satan is actually a rarity and I have only known 2 people who do this. Satanism is much like BUddhism in that it is a non-theistic religion.
I cannot believe you did not know his ^_^

Why would I know it? Satanism isn't exactly easy to find clear information on. I know a little bit of the history of how the Church of Satanism was founded (the modern one). Plus, I don't personally know any satanists, so I have little to reference from.

But yes, it so encourages people to fix their misunderstandings when you make fun of their ignorance, one could hardly expect me to know everything about every religion.
 
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But the prerequisite to be an actual Christian is belief in god. Buddhist, Daoist, and Satanists do not have this so you can be an atheist and still subscribe to these religions. You do not need a Jesus to teach a person morals. The only teachings Jesus taught where things we have innately.

Look, that is what they are called, I didn't pick the name.
 
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The issue is that a couple billion religious minds cannot have their way :D. People desire to have a world that submits to themselves and their world view. This is all that religion does. When people find out that they are not special and rather worthless when compared to the cosmos they will not be able to handle it.

Ah, worthless and without purpose and meaning perhaps? Is that not what Just has been claiming all along and everyone is clamoring against?
 
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Ah, worthless and without purpose and meaning perhaps? Is that not what Just has been claiming all along and everyone is clamoring against?
no

Everyone has been clamoring against Just's claim that the theory of evolution (Darwinism) makes statements about the worth or purpose of humans, or the existence or non-existence of gods or any particular god.
 
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Ah, worthless and without purpose and meaning perhaps? Is that not what Just has been claiming all along and everyone is clamoring against?

If we all have the ability to determine our own life's meaning and purpose, what is the problem?
 
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Everyone has been clamoring against Just's claim that the theory of evolution (Darwinism) makes statements about the worth or purpose of humans, or the existence or non-existence of gods or any particular god.

He has created justlookinlaism, from his own personal interpretation of the TOE.

It is pretty clear, this personal interpretation, is very very important to protecting his own beliefs, regardless of whether he is simply claiming the theory says things it obviously does not say. This is not unusual behavior from a self professed; fundamentalist. These beliefs, must be protected at all costs.
 
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It is pretty clear, this personal interpretation, is very very important to protecting his own beliefs, regardless of whether he is simply claiming the theory says things it obviously does not say. This is not unusual behavior from a self professed; fundamentalist. These beliefs, must be protected at all costs.

Excellent observation. The only thing I would add would be the term "confirmation bias".
 
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Excellent observation. The only thing I would add would be the term "confirmation bias".

Yes and to take it a step further, I would say it is dealing with cognitive dissonance by using; confirmation bias, selective reasoning and pure denial as the primary defense mechanisms. All by the way, are quite predictable, in these sorts of situations.
 
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Why would I know it? Satanism isn't exactly easy to find clear information on. I know a little bit of the history of how the Church of Satanism was founded (the modern one). Plus, I don't personally know any satanists, so I have little to reference from.

But yes, it so encourages people to fix their misunderstandings when you make fun of their ignorance, one could hardly expect me to know everything about every religion.

Sorry, I just expect people to Google everything and actually there is not much info on Satanism actually. Sort of my mistake because I study theology and expect everybody to be on par with me :D
 
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Ah, worthless and without purpose and meaning perhaps? Is that not what Just has been claiming all along and everyone is clamoring against?

What on earth are you babbling about? Is Just a person or is that a mis-capitalization?
 
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What on earth are you babbling about? Is Just a person or is that a mis-capitalization?

Perhaps you should ask a question about what is being said rather than comment that I am babbling. That is insulting and uncalled for. Yes, Just is a person.
 
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Everyone has been clamoring against Just's claim that the theory of evolution (Darwinism) makes statements about the worth or purpose of humans, or the existence or non-existence of gods or any particular god.


Right, that humans have no worth or purpose which is what "Slave" said.
 
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