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You do know that the vast majority of Satanists do not worship Satan right? Satanism is an atheistic religion/philosophy. There is no worship, no metaphysics, no "spirituality", no gods, no demons and no supernatural.
Satanists who worship Satan is actually a rarity and I have only known 2 people who do this. Satanism is much like BUddhism in that it is a non-theistic religion.
I cannot believe you did not know his![]()
Who's problem is it?
You aren't reading this from Collins' website, BioLogos......
How is BioLogos different from Evolutionism, Intelligent Design, and Creationism? | BioLogos"We at BioLogos believe that God used the process of evolution to create all the life on earth today. While we accept the science of evolution, we emphatically reject evolutionism. Evolutionism is the atheistic worldview that says life developed without God and without purpose. Instead, we agree with Christians who adhere to Intelligent Design and Creationism that the God of the Bible created the universe and all life. Christians disagree, however, on how God created. Young Earth Creationists believe that God created just 6,000 to 10,000 years ago and disagree with much of mainstream science. Supporters of Intelligent Design accept more of evolutionary science, but argue that some features of life are best explained by direct intervention by an intelligent agent rather than by God’s regular way of working through natural processes. We at BioLogos agree with the modern scientific consensus on the age of the earth and evolutionary development of all species, seeing these as descriptions of how God created. The term BioLogos comes from the Greek words bios (life) and logos (word), referring to the opening of the Gospel of John. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made.”
This is what many Christians as well as myself believe and I think makes my point rather well. I don't know if this find was intentional but thanks anyway.We see no biblical reason to view natural processes (including natural selection) as having removed God from the process of creation. It is all God’s and it is all intelligently designed.
On intelligent design:The BioLogos view holds that both Scripture and modern science reveal God’s truth, and that these truths are not in competition with one another. While there are varying views within the BioLogos community of how to reconcile the truths of science and Scripture on particular issues (for example with regards to a historical Adam1), we believe that the Bible is the divinely inspired and authoritative Word of God. BioLogos accepts the modern scientific consensus on the age of the earth and common ancestry, including the common ancestry of humans.
They pretty much see things as I do. Just, thanks for pointing me to some very good validation for some of my ideas.To summarize, BioLogos differs from the ID movement in three respects:
1. We are skeptical about the ability of biological science to prove the existence of an Intelligent Designer (whom we take to be the God of the Bible), while ID advocates are confident.
2. We find unconvincing those attempts by ID theorists to scientifically confirm God’s activity in natural history, while ID theorists believe they have sufficiently demonstrated it.
3. We see no biblical reason to view natural processes (including natural selection) as having removed God from the process of creation. It is all God’s and it is all intelligently designed. Those in the ID movement for the most part reject some or all of the major conclusions of evolutionary theory.
I have a coherent reason to believe why I am an intelligent being, with a sense of inherent morality, with a conscience, with consciousness and purpose. You are the one that has no reason for those things to be a reality.![]()
Let me get this straight.
I am the one that has no reason for being an intelligent being, to be able to be moral, and to be able to define a purpose in life?
You are saying I have no coherent reason to believe the above is a reality for me personally?
No, not personally. For anyone that believes we are products of an unintelligent process with no purpose or goal for the life forms that exist.
To understand the fact that we do indeed have purpose, intelligence and morality supports that we were not products of an unintelligent process without purpose or goals.![]()
Backpeddling?
You stated I had no coherent reason to believe I had purpose, intelligence or morality.
If I don't believe as you do, I have no coherent reason to understand why I have purpose, intelligence or morality? Quite an arrogant point of view once.
I am not backpeddling. It is not arrogant either. You are endowed with the same intelligence, morality and purpose that humankind is endowed with, you just have reason for it in your worldview.
Not what you said before.
You stated I had no coherent reason to have; intelligence, morality or purpose.
They may not have "worth" or "purpose" in so far as supermassive black holes and the rest of the universe is concerned, but that wasn't Just's point nor part of the rebuttals.Right, that humans have no worth or purpose which is what "Slave" said.
What.....?? Once changing her tune to suit the occasion...?
Well, I never.......!
Yes, well, some things we come to learn, are quite predictable.
"I have a coherent reason to believe why I am an intelligent being, with a sense of inherent morality, with a conscience, with consciousness and purpose. You are the one that has no reason for those things to be a reality."
So biggs has no reason for those things to be a reality?
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Ok...ok...I need to stop laughing...ok
Now, if that was meant for meand not Biggs I'll answer.
What coherent reason do you have to believe that a non-intelligent process could produce intelligent beings with an inherent morality, a conscience, being conscious and with purpose?
And why or how do you think you have a better explanation than mine?
They may not have "worth" or "purpose" in so far as supermassive black holes and the rest of the universe is concerned, but that wasn't Just's point nor part of the rebuttals.
Justlookinla said that the theory of evolution as taught in school denies the existence of God and, as such, suggests an inherent worthlessness and lack of purpose for humans. The rebuttals consisted of:
1. The theory does not make statements about the existence of God, either positively or negatively.
2. No other scientific theory makes statements about the existence of God, so they are in the same boat as the theory of evolution.
3. The theory of evolution makes no statements about worth or purpose for humans or any other species.
4. No other scientific theory makes statements about the worth or purpose for humans or any other species.
What Slave or any other person says about the worth or purpose of humans is irrelevant to the discussion of what the theory of evolution states or does not state about human worth or purpose.
We've been discussing just that.
What coherent reason do you have to believe that a non-intelligent process could produce intelligent beings with an inherent morality, a conscience, being conscious and with purpose?
And why or how do you think you have a better explanation than mine?
Because that is exactly what happened. That's the reason.
We are the product of natural processes, and we are conscious, intelligent beings that can produce meaning and purpose in our lives.
You might as well ask how non-lightning processes can produce lightning, or non-cloud processes can produce clouds. It's nonsense.
Our explanation is backed by evidence. Yours isn't.
So biggs has no reason for those things to be a reality?
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Ok...ok...I need to stop laughing...ok
Now, if that was meant for meand not Biggs I'll answer.
What coherent reason do you have to believe that a non-intelligent process could produce intelligent beings with an inherent morality, a conscience, being conscious and with purpose?
And why or how do you think you have a better explanation than mine?
Once, after the months of posts on this topic, you keep coming back to the same thing that has been answered for you over and over.
It is impossible to have an honest discussion with you, your filter allows nothing through or you simply play like no one ever answered you.
If you can look in the mirror and keep going, keep drinking the kool aid.