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Is boycotting really loving your enemies? Sounds more like avoiding your enemies to me.You write as if companies have a right to my business, and that I am depriving them of my consumerism.
No one company has a right to our loyalty. If they are behaving badly, in a way that directly offends Christian morals (and me), why on earth would I support them.
The best way I can 'love my enemy' is by trying to get them to realize the error of their ways.
I believe that it is. As parents we scold our children when they do something wrong because we love them, and expect them to apologize for their misdeed.Is boycotting really loving your enemies? Sounds more like avoiding your enemies to me.
I believe that it is. As parents we scold our children when they do something wrong because we love them, and expect them to apologize for their misdeed.
Think of a boycott as sending a child to 'time out'. When that child returns and apologizes (repents), they are then embraced.
The best way I can 'love my enemy' is by trying to get them to realize the error of their ways.
I believe that it is. As parents we scold our children when they do something wrong because we love them, and expect them to apologize for their misdeed.
Think of a boycott as sending a child to 'time out'. When that child returns and apologizes (repents), they are then embraced.
Bob, to take your analogy to the ridiculous extreem, are you saying Christians should sleep with prostitutes so that we are not seen to be boycotting them? Because that would be condescending.See, the way that is said, in conjunction with advocating a boycott, comes across as just plain arrogance. Arrogance is not a fruit of the Spirit of God and it spawns resistance and contempt rather than repentance.
The way of love involves making a relationship and gently leading the person (or company in this case) to Jesus. A boycott is about like walking up to a prostitute and shouting at her. It does no good and it annoys the prostitute!
God Bless
Bob
Spearfish, SD
Bob, to take your analogy to the ridiculous extreem, are you saying Christians should sleep with prostitutes so that we are not seen to be boycotting them? Because that would be condescending.
... I think it is a bit odd to consider boycotting a business an act of hatred.
great pointNot in all cases surely. But the motive here is clear. Ford's offense to AFA was marketing to the LGBT community. Opposing that is an act of hatred.
Scripture actually spoofs the very idea of having nothing to do with people of the world due to sexual immorality.
1Co 5:9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people--
1Co 5:10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world.
1Co 5:11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler--not even to eat with such a one.
1Co 5:12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge?
1Co 5:13 God judges those outside. "Purge the evil person from among you."
Notice that Paul wrote not to associate with sexually immoral people, however, he specifically did not mean sexually immoral people of the world, because it's impossible to be in the world and do that.
We are not to avoid the sexuall immoral of the world, nor the idolaters, greedy and so on. These people are actually our mission for being here.
It is within the church that we do not have anything to do with the immoral. Those who claim to be Christians but whose lives are filled with sin, those people we are to discipline and have nothing to do with if they do not repent. But those outside the church, we are here clearly told that we are not to avoid them.
That's a case closed. God has spoken.
Marv
Ok I'm a little confused. Lyn you seem to be suggesting here that Jesus said we should avoid sinners. Then you go on to point out Jesus associated with sinners. Or did you misunderstand Marv's post where he said the instruction was for only those within the church?Who trumps who between Paul and Christ? Paul said this but Christ associated with Republicans and sinners. Who to follow? Are we Paulists or Christians?
Besides, you failed to show how the passage applies to this issue.
Ok I'm a little confused. Lyn you seem to be suggesting here that Jesus said we should avoid sinners. Then you go on to point out Jesus associated with sinners. Or did you misunderstand Marv's post where he said the instruction was for only those within the church?
I think the point being that seem as Ford is a company and therefore can't be christian then boycotting is not in line with biblical principles because we are told to witness and reach out to these people.
Just as I thought you did misunderstand. Read his post again. Read every word. At no point in time did Marv say no sinner should be allowed in churches. Hence what Marv was saying when quoting Paul is the same as what you were saying when you gave a descrioption of Christ's actions.No, I rejected his premise. He quoted a Pauline epistle; I quoted a description of Christ from the scripture. He did not provide any evidence that the people being attacked (LGBTs) are any more "sinners" than he is.
The concept is absurd as all Christians are sinners and those that have delusions they are not are overcome by their own smugness and arrogance. If all "sinners" were banned from church all churches would be empty.
Just as I thought you did misunderstand. Read his post again. Read every word. At no point in time did Marv say no sinner should be allowed in churches. Hence what Marv was saying when quoting Paul is the same as what you were saying when you gave a descrioption of Christ's actions.
It is also true that he did not provide any proof that LGBT's are any more sinners than he is. of course he never claime they were any more sinners than he is in his post. A careful reading of peoples posts for what they say rather than what one thinks they are saying is most helpful.
I acknowledge that you seem to have a different opinion to other christians in regards to LGBT's but that does not make it an automatic assumption that you are right. You might be but you also might be wrong. To assume people are just being hateful and are extremists because they hold a diferent opinion to you is also most unhelpful. I personally have not seen Marv make any hateful posts on any topic although I have not read every post he has ever made so I can't bee 100% certain but considering every post of his I have seen is polite I would like to think that he is not a hateful person like you seem to be suggesting.
Just out of curiosity in which post did I misunderstand you? are you able to rephrase so I understand?Tell you what, let's let the Brother speak for himself. You say I did not understand his post but you misread mine and attacked me so let's see if he has anything to say.
Just out of curiosity in which post did I misunderstand you? are you able to rephrase so I understand?
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