Why I Don't Like Homosexuals

[mnolen82]

I just want to say that sometimes I am surprised by what I read on some of these posts. First of all, the title of this thread is "Why I don't like homosexuals." That is a very general statement. While I believe that homosexuality is a sin, I also believe that, as Christians, we should treat homosexuals, AS WELL AS ANYONE COMMITTING ANY SIN, as Christ would and that is with LOVE. Carmody, it sounds like, from your post, you have had very limited experiences with individuals that are homosexuals. While I don't believe I am any where close to an expert on the subject, I spent a lot of time with individuals who were homosexuals as I attended an all-girl's school in college with a large lesbian population. And yes, I was friends with many of the girls. How can I throw stones at someone when I myself am not without sin?? I also have a friend whom I met in college while participating in a student service organization who happened to be a gay man. I met him about 4 years ago and I never knew he was gay until a year ago when I added him as a friend on myspace! I never saw him act inappropriately towards anyone, man or woman. My point is that homosexuals have sin in their lives, just as I do and just as you do. You will meet homosexual men who will be perverts as well as heterosexual men who will be perverts. (Women too so I'm not accused of stereotyping) I've met a few heterosexual men who have touched me inappropriately and said inappropriate things to me when I was just minding my own business and I try not to generalize against men in general because of a few bad experiences! I empathize with the bad experiences that you have had but don't allow that to make you "scared" of homosexuals. I know this is an old saying but I still love it: What would Jesus do?? P.S. - If you wish to respond, please try to do it respectfully as I have tried to do.

 

[CShephard53]

But I would hope you would understand that not all gay people are "creepy" or "preverts".

Isn't that what I JUST said?

 

[naotmaa]

Isn't that what I JUST said?

umm? I had only read the post of yours that I had commented on. I meant no harm.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Not everyone believes that homosexuality is wrong. It may be wrong for you, and that's fine. Just don't have intimate relationships with men. For gay people, homosexuality is right. The world is enriched by the diversity of human expression.

For pedophiles, molestation is right... so relativism does not fit the bill unless it suites your own aims. Different strokes for different folks was a phrase not coined by Lord Jesus.

 

[BAFRIEND]

Actually, Carmody — I don't have a problem with homosexuality.

The gays and lesbians I know in this forum don't have a problem with homosexuality.

All of us are comfortable with our lives, our jobs, our partners, our families — so I would say if there's anybody here who has a "problem" with homosexuality, it's you.

That gives you some choices. You can enter into therapy and figure out why homosexuality bothers you so much (when it obviously doesn't bother gays and lesbians — and most straight people, for that matter, anywhere near as it bothers you), and therapy can be quite painful but you'll end up getting a life you can actually use.

You might want to do a moral inventory on yourself — not the gays you don't like, or the lesbians, or the straight people who don't think like you do, or whomever else gets under your skin; but your own inventory of your own attitudes, beliefs, resentments and how those attitudes, beliefs and resentments affect you. This can also be painful — especially the part where you share the entire thing and your findings with another trusted person, but it's also very liberating. (I've done several of these: I always get to the bottom of what it is that's eating at me, even if I don't like the process.)

But I can assure you "the problem" isn't the gays, the lesbians, and their supporters on this board. You, Carmody, have a problem with Carmody.

Funny, when I have shared my views on divorce on other forums I was belittled just like this in the same manner... even though I was basically paraphrasing Jesus from the NT.

 

[BAFRIEND]

When a girl gets pregnant by an adult male we call it statutory rape.

Thank you for emphasizing my point. We state that it is statuatory rape meaning that it is rape only by virtue of a law that states it is illegal for an adult male to have sex with a female minor even if she consents.

But an adult male that has sex with a minor male, we call that molestation.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

Thank you for emphasizing my point. We state that it is statuatory rape meaning that it is rape only by virtue of a law that states it is illegal for an adult male to have sex with a female minor even if she consents.

But an adult male that has sex with a minor male, we call that molestation.

Which is wrong.

It causes the same amount of mental and physical damage, it deserves the same name. I personally don't believe that if the minor consents that only the adult should get punishment. The minor knew what they were doing (assuming they're teenagers which they are most of the time).

Homosexuality being right or wrong has nothing to do with it. The problem could be that the American government is so afraid of being "offensive" that they let homosexuals off easy, much like they do with race or gender.

 

[TheFathersDaughter]

For pedophiles, molestation is right... so relativism does not fit the bill unless it suites your own aims. Different strokes for different folks was a phrase not coined by Lord Jesus.

Except pedophilia is a proven mental disorder.

Homosexuality as a mental disorder has been dubbed as nonsense by the APA for quite a few years now.

 

[naotmaa]

Thank you for emphasizing my point. We state that it is statuatory rape meaning that it is rape only by virtue of a law that states it is illegal for an adult male to have sex with a female minor even if she consents.

But an adult male that has sex with a minor male, we call that molestation.

Just oging to repeat myself here: When a adult male touches a girl inappropriately it is considered to be molestation. When a adult male touches a boy inapporpiately is considered to be molestation. When an adult male has sex with a 14 year old boy it statuary rape. When an adult male has sex with a 14 year old girl it is statuary rape. If the sex was forced on them then it would also be considered rape, sexual assault and molestation.

I'm not sure how you can think a girl being molestated is any better than when it happens to a boy.

 

[HunnyBee]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

It is unfortunate when anyone in life must deal with being molested and violated, whether it's by someone who is homosexual or heterosexual. I think you should focus on every individual person instead of lumping them together as sexual predators, because you will miss out on meeting some great people. They may be homosexual but they are really no different than you and I, they are still human beings with feelings and a heart of their own.

 

[Brieuse]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

So you're basically blaming all of us for your encounter with a couple of perverts?

 

[LunarPlexus]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

Firstly: Lovely to meet you all!

I do feel sorry that you had these experiences, that ANYONE has them. The thing is that those men weren't representatives of homosexuals everywhere. It's like saying that you don't like the Asian because an Asian man hit you. You cannot judge the majority based on a handful of rotten apples.

Aside from that, this really wasn't about homosexuality. These were obviously depraved men with a taste for young boys. I personally don't think that homosexuality comes into it.

There is in fact a difference between paedophiles and homosexuals. I'm also a little confused by what you mean about the gay culture...

 

[UberLutheran]

Sorry, this is different and has nothing to do with race or gender.

Homosexuality is an objective moral disorder with symptoms like chicken-pox or measles.

Now, I know that I am going to come under attack as being a biggot, but the fact is that race and gender have nothing to do with what I stated as my opinion is that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder, while heterosexuality, gender, and race are not moral disorders. God has created different races and genders and his creation is beautiful.

Humans have created moral disorders and negative behaviors.

Actually, Carmody — I don't have a problem with homosexuality.

The gays and lesbians I know in this forum don't have a problem with homosexuality.

All of us are comfortable with our lives, our jobs, our partners, our families — so I would say if there's anybody here who has a "problem" with homosexuality, it's you.

That gives you some choices. You can enter into therapy and figure out why homosexuality bothers you so much (when it obviously doesn't bother gays and lesbians — and most straight people, for that matter, anywhere near as it bothers you), and therapy can be quite painful but you'll end up getting a life you can actually use.

You might want to do a moral inventory on yourself — not the gays you don't like, or the lesbians, or the straight people who don't think like you do, or whomever else gets under your skin; but your own inventory of your own attitudes, beliefs, resentments and how those attitudes, beliefs and resentments affect you. This can also be painful — especially the part where you share the entire thing and your findings with another trusted person, but it's also very liberating. (I've done several of these: I always get to the bottom of what it is that's eating at me, even if I don't like the process.)

But I can assure you "the problem" isn't the gays, the lesbians, and their supporters on this board. You, Carmody, have a problem with Carmody.

 

[kiwimac]

Thank you for emphasizing my point. We state that it is statuatory rape meaning that it is rape only by virtue of a law that states it is illegal for an adult male to have sex with a female minor even if she consents.

But an adult male that has sex with a minor male, we call that molestation.

Molestation is not the same as homosexuality. Most males who molest are straight not gay. Bear in mind when a male molests a boy, he is not turned on by the child's maleness but by his age.

 

[UberLutheran]

Funny, when I have shared my views on divorce on other forums I was belittled just like this in the same manner... even though I was basically paraphrasing Jesus from the NT.

How typical: people come into a forum, insult the people there using blanket generalizations which really don't apply, and the complain about being "persecuted" when the other posters there call these people on their actions.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Except pedophilia is a proven mental disorder.

Homosexuality as a mental disorder has been dubbed as nonsense by the APA for quite a few years now.

and paedophilia is inherently harmful to others if actively practiced... homosexuality is not

 

[PureLove]

charming

 

[SallyNow]

When I was a kid in highschool at a track meet at a college I was using the restroom at the stadium. I was the only guy in there when a homosexual came in and said, "hi" and then he brushed against my back as I was using the urinal. Even though I was using the urinal at the end of a long row of urinals against the wall and we were alone in the restroom he decided to use the one right to next to mine and then he started to humm Dixie and tap his foot. My experience has been that guys cannot stop peeing in mid-stream but I was able to that time. I got out of there fast.

A few months later I was on a class trip in San Francisco and a classmate and I were walking on the sidewalk at Fishermans Wharf when a homosexual walked past us and groped my friend. My friend turned and was so shocked that something like this would happen and apologized to the guy not really taking in what had just happened.

I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.

You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.

Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture.

Better safe than sorry.

You know, women have these sorts of things happen to them all the time. In some workplaces, women experience this sort of harassing behaviour every single day. Does it mean a woman who goes through this sort of garbage hates all men? No. It means she avoids those who do innappropriate things and sometimes even works on creating appropriate behaviour standards.

A gay person is no danger to a child. A pedophile is a danger. The two are much different. In fact, in many societies pedophilia is supported when it is older male/much younger female.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

charming

huh?

 

[Ohioprof]

Wow... People, all I did was contribute my experience of gay people- my personal experience with interacting with gay people who follow the lifestyle (making homosexual relationships, thinking it's okay, having sex, for those of you who don't know what a homosexual lifestyle is...). I made NO comment about whether or not I like homosexuals as a group. You guys need to pay more attention to words that are written on a page, because most thinking people would ask 'so what do you think of them if those are your only two experiences?' not accuse me of bashing them. I expressed no opinion but my opinion of the two that I've interacted with.


Moral relativism.

That's both rude and uncalled for, assuming I don't know many gay people... do you read any of my posts? And do you really want me to comment on what I think of you? Because if I did it would be via pm.

I do read your posts. You don't know many gay people. I'm not being rude. I am introducing myself so you can get to know gay people....real gay people. How is that rude?

There is no such thing as "the gay lifestyle." Please remember this and stop using "lifestyle" in reference to gay people. Got it? The people who refer to "the gay lifestyle" are mostly the anti-gay crowd who want people to believe that being gay is a "lifestyle," when in fact it is not, anymore than being heterosexual is a "lifestyle." Gay people live many different lifestyles. I live the mommy lifestyle, if you can call it that....taking my child to school now each morning. How exciting this is that my daughter has started school, but that is off topic; sorry.

Anyway, you show by your posts that you don't know many gay people, because if you did, you would know more about us than you obviously do. But that's okay. There are gay people here like me, and you can get to know us and learn something from the interaction. It's a great opportunity for you.