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This is the Homosexual Debate Forum... Not the homosexual support Forum. As I have pointed out before, the only support forum for homosexuals is in the revovery section of this site.
I gave my views and opinions, so debate. This will help all of us understand one anothers view points on the issue.
This is the Homosexual Debate Forum... Not the homosexual support Forum. As I have pointed out before, the only support forum for homosexuals is in the revovery section of this site.
I gave my views and opinions, so debate. This will help all of us understand one anothers view points on the issue.
I think we come from different perceptions.
I feel your proliferations are offensive to God and my Christian beliefs and teachings.
Despite what you call insults, I still argue from the standpoint of religious perception.
You feel that my insults offend your lifestyle and behavior.
Who has the moral high ground ?
My three IDs are: BAFRIEND, LANTERN, CARMODY.
So you have 3 sockpuppets you use that seem to spend all their time in the gay threads and you don't like gay people, don't seem interested in anything but arguing with them.
tulc(seems like you could do something more useful with your time)
Since you asked, I would say that Uber has the moral high ground. He has not attacked Christians. You, on the other hand, have openly attacked gay people and have called gay people names. You have not engaged in civil discourse, apparently because of your hostility toward gay people. So, Uber has the moral high ground here.I think we come from different perceptions.
I feel your proliferations are offensive to God and my Christian beliefs and teachings.
Despite what you call insults, I still argue from the standpoint of religious perception.
You feel that my insults offend your lifestyle and behavior.
Who has the moral high ground ?
I think you are right. This thread is different from threads that debate the issue as an issue. It's a direct attack on gay people, and that makes it a flame.Okay, I read through the first post and there really is no need to go farther.
Carmody, your post is in violation of forum rules and is considered a flame. Thus the whole thread needs to be closed as it is only going to birth a lot of other flames in response.
Just because you are losing I am posting a flame ?!
Ha Ha.
Take in the gist of the thread. I am debating homosexuality on the basis of personal experience and religious belief.
I told you that a friend and mine were both assaulted by homosexuals and that I believe that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder and everyone the other side argues on the tight rope of moral relativity.
Well, sorry. But I do not consider this a flame as I have considered the many personal attacks against me and other straight Christian posters here being called racists and latent homosexuals.
This thread is not against the rules. What is against the rules is publically posting that another poster is in violation of the rules.
I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.
You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online
I can do that, but the question at hand is not what you wrote there, but what you have written here, in this thread. I have no problem with your calling the men who hit on you as a child "perverts," but when you generalize to all gay people, that's an attack. When you suggest that all gay people act in ways that endanger children, that’s an attack. Back in your opening post, you wrote the following:A direct attack on gay people, where ?
I stated that Jesus in the NT only refers to marriage as between a man and a woman as does the law in the OT and therefore a gay marriage can never be a marriage in the Sacramental sense.
I called homosexuality an objective moral disorder that has no place in human nature.
You state that there is nothing wrong with a loving caring relationship and I came back with stating that you would not hold the same view when it comes to pedophila- another sexual orientation.
The elimination of this thread would be nothing short of a victory for me.
You are kind of new here, Ohioprof...
Why don't you go back and look at the thread I created on Ryan White or Sheppard.
Actually, I don't have a problem with people debating on the basis of their own experience. My problem with what Carmody said in his OP is his generalization from a couple of men hitting on him to all gay people. We all draw from our personal experiences, whether we acknowledge that or not. I think that relying on personal experience is more valuable that quoting the Bible. But I think we all have to be careful not to overgeneralize from our personal experiences in ways that unfairly target a whole group of people. People may have negative experiences with a few Christians, and that doesn't mean that it's then fair to attack all Christians because of it.Carmody in the OP you said
It is a flame and is in violation of forum rules but I'll leave that to the moderators.
A rule of thumb for you. Don't debate sin on the basis of your experience anymore than we allow folks to justify sin based upon their own.
Deal with what GOD's Word says. You debating based upon your experience lacks the power to set anyone free.
Just because you are losing I am posting a flame ?!
Ha Ha.
Take in the gist of the thread. I am debating homosexuality on the basis of personal experience and religious belief.
I told you that a friend and mine were both assaulted by homosexuals and that I believe that homosexuality is an objective moral disorder and everyone the other side argues on the tight rope of moral relativity.
Well, sorry. But I do not consider this a flame as I have considered the many personal attacks against me and other straight Christian posters here being called racists and latent homosexuals.
This thread is not against the rules. What is against the rules is publically posting that another poster is in violation of the rules.
No I am not generalizing. I am specifically calling out the gay culture that proliferates perpetual sin.I can do that, but the question at hand is not what you wrote there, but what you have written here, in this thread. I have no problem with your calling the men who hit on you as a child "perverts," but when you generalize to all gay people, that's an attack. When you suggest that all gay people act in ways that endanger children, that’s an attack. Back in your opening post, you wrote the following:
"I mean, we were just kids, 14 years old, and here these perverts go around starting stuff in the restrooms and in public with us.
"You homosexuals scare me. I constantly worry about the kids, never wanting to let them out of my sight or let them use public restrooms alone and worry about who they might meet online.
"Going to accuse me of stereotyping ? Go to any gay website and read the garbage and take in the culture."
How is that NOT an attack on gay people?
What a lie against me.Sounds like you've got an agenda and you're trying to pick fights with anybody who will engage you, with the purpose of getting them to flame you so you can report them.
Sorry: Will.Not.Participate.
I already answered that in another thread. Since you are so good at research... find my answer.
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