Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

[driewerf]

I suck at the English language. I was born, then raised evangelical. Hah. But it's true that a lot of my identity from when I was young was attributed to faith...it's tough to shake.

This posts confronts me with the limitis of my English. :o

 

[Tomatoman]

Doveaman:

Is it more likely that all people are born atheists and as knowledge increase they become theists? This would mean that adult atheists are slow learners.

Actually, it's more likely that an innate tendency to religious belief in humans is the result of evolution: Evolutionary psychology of religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There you are, Doveaman, you are expressing your evolutionary heritage.

 

[Son of the King]

Ah, I love this tactic! Whenever someone claims to have been a Christian but lost their faith, you guys put on your defenses. "Ah, you must not have been a real Christian! A real Christian wouldn't leave the faith!" Are you that insecure about your beliefs that you have to belittle me like that? You make a huge, sweeping judgment about me and my life? Do you know the circumstances that led me to be an atheist? I find it funny that you know nothing about me but claim to know everything about me.

I apologize if I came across as belittling you, that was not my intention. I did say assume though, in other words guessing. God is clear in His Word about many falling away, just read the parable of the sower. It does sound however that your the one on the defensive though. For you are the one with the conundrum, not I. I do struggle with the thought that if one is baptized in the Spirit that he could fall away. But then we battle not agianst flesh and blood.

 

[Son of the King]

You can't be this stupid...



1. If God knows I'm going to pick a COKE, do I have a choice?

No.

2. If God doesn't know what I'm going to pick, do I have a choice?

Yes.


Happy now?

God knew I was going to pick coke, but the vender refiller put mountain dew by mistake in the coke slot and I ended up with mountain dew.

 

[Son of the King]

Son Of the King


Another example of someone with an invisible friend.

He has to remain unseen, for if He showed up in ALL HIS GLORY we would turn instantly to dust. But blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

 

[Tomatoman]

Son of the king:

I apologize if I came across as belittling you, that was not my intention. I did say assume though, in other words guessing. God is clear in His Word about many falling away, just read the parable of the sower. It does sound however that your the one on the defensive though. For you are the one with the conundrum, not I. I do struggle with the thought that if one is baptized in the Spirit that he could fall away. But then we battle not agianst flesh and blood.

I think it's the sanctimonious preaching tone that gets up people's noses. But then again I may be wrong.

 

[Doveaman]

Logic is the language of the human mind - and I thought we were made in God's image. So what's the deal?

Here's the deal.

Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" - Gen 1:26.

Does God have free will? Yes, He does. Then it is logical to conclude that everyone made in the image and likeness of God will also have free will just as God does.

 

[Cabal]

Here's the deal.

Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness" - Gen 1:26.

Does God have free will? Yes, He does. Then it is logical to conclude that everyone made in the image and likeness of God will also have free will just as God does.

And we are also omnipotent and omniscient.

Oh wait.

 

[theFijian]

He isn't. Maybe it is you that is illogical. God's logic is not your logic:

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the LORD. - Isa 55:8.
Then logically explain how God enabled a virgin to conceive and a dead man to rise.

When Adam ate the fruit was he making a logical decision?

The problem is that you're using 'logic' in some kind of colloquial manner as though it's a synonym for 'makes sense', it isn't.

 

[Doveaman]

Whenever someone claims to have been a Christian but lost their faith, you guys put on your defenses. "Ah, you must not have been a real Christian!...Do you know the circumstances that led me to be an atheist?

Do you know the circumstances that led you to be a Christian?

 

[Doveaman]

And we are also omnipotent and omniscient.

Oh wait.

You're right, God didn't create us in His image and likeness.

 

[sandwiches]

You're right, God didn't create us in His image and likeness.

Not entirely in his image, however, as has been pointed out. We're neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

 

[Cabal]

You're right, God didn't create us in His image and likeness.

Well done, you refuted yourself.

All you need to do now is divide by zero.

 

[Doveaman]

For all we know, all of our decisions are predetermined by the electrical signals of our brains. Maybe we are robots. We will never really know.

You are scaring me.

 

[MoonLancer]

It's a simple YES or NO question, MoonLancer -- it's not an essay question.

Its a short question. Not a simple one.

 

[Mobiosity]

Not entirely in his image, however, as has been pointed out. We're neither omniscient nor omnipotent.

Image and likeness aren't the same as identical and sameness.

 

[Cabal]

Image and likeness aren't the same as identical and sameness.

I agree, but the argument that was being responded to WAS that simplistic.

 

[MoonLancer]

What if I know what I'm going to pick? then what?

you know the choice you intended to make, but how many times have you had a choice in your mind but the outcome did not exactly happen the way it you had intended?

you know those candy vending machines machines? the ones where you input a a number and a letter to get some candy. well i know at least once in my life i wanted C5 candy but i read the line wrong and the candy i really wanted was C6, or that my hand slipped and i gave the wrong input.

Now if you had absolute knowledge of the future and you were unable to change the course of the future, then we can agree you have no free will right? but if you have knowledge of the future and you change the future by seeing it, your knowledge of the future was fallible.

 

[Mobiosity]

It's an opinion.

 

[MoonLancer]

It's an opinion.

sorry but this line popped into my head when i read this.