Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

[JustMeSee]

well now hold on a minute...if there are genuine questions...they should be asked and explored, do you agree?

You might want to grasp the very basics first. You still seem to be under the notion that the study of evolution has not gone beyond the research of Darwin, even though you have been told otherwise at least twice on this very thread.

I admit that I understand very little about biology, geology, and evolution studies. I avoid making blind claims in areas that I have very little understanding.

To argue against what scientists claim to be evidence, it is important to have a degree of underlying understand. It is kind of like a 5 year old kid saying pi has no relation to a circle, when he has no understanding of decimals, angles, or trigonometry. Even though the five year old can count to 100 and can identify shapes (triangles and circles), he has no understanding of pi.

 

[JustMeSee]

Dawkins thinks Darwin was infallible because evolution/atheism is a religion.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sinSG4mYajg

Please provide a quote from Dawkins supporting the bolded part of your statement.

I am no fan of Dawkins' public persona or a great deal of of what he says, but I have never read any of his writings that even hinted at Darwin being infallible or atheism being a religion.

 

[JustMeSee]

Sorry!

I just realized I was responding to posts from last year. I will skip ahead to the recent posts.

 

[Targ]

Please provide a quote from Dawkins supporting the bolded part of your statement.

I am no fan of Dawkins' public persona or a great deal of of what he says, but I have never read any of his writings that even hinted at Darwin being infallible or atheism being a religion.

And what is the meaning of this conflation of evolution and atheism? I think AoS is forgetting that a very large proportion of the Christian world also accepts evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

I think AoS is forgetting that a very large proportion of the Christian world also accepts evolution.

Maybe today, but taking the entire family of God into consideration, evolution is outside looking in.

 

[JustMeSee]

Maybe today, but taking the entire family of God into consideration, evolution is outside looking in.

AV1611VET, from what I have read, AoS and you have radically different views on the creation.

Do the two of you ever debate over your opposing interpretations?

 

[AV1611VET]

AV1611VET, from what I have read, AoS and you have radically different views on the creation.

Do the two of you ever debate over your opposing interpretations?

No -- we are not suppose to in a public forum.

1 Corinthians 6:1 ¶ Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

In addition, even though Agonaces and I may not see eye-to-eye on creation, we agree that God did it -- and that settles the matter right there.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

No -- we are not suppose to in a public forum.

1 Corinthians 6:1 ¶ Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

In addition, even though Agonaces and I may not see eye-to-eye on creation, we agree that God did it -- and that settles the matter right there.

God bless you AV...

 

[sandwiches]

No -- we are not suppose to in a public forum.

1 Corinthians 6:1 ¶ Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

In addition, even though Agonaces and I may not see eye-to-eye on creation, we agree that God did it -- and that settles the matter right there.

So, since Muslims agree with you that God did it, that settles the matter right there, as well?

 

[AV1611VET]

God bless you AV...

Thank you, sir -- and you too!

We don't have that burden of fighting and arguing amongst ourselves; then calling it "peer review" and going home like we did something spectacular.

God said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" -- not "Blessed are the peer reviewers".

 

[sandwiches]

No -- we are not suppose to in a public forum.

1 Corinthians 6:1 ¶ Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

In addition, even though Agonaces and I may not see eye-to-eye on creation, we agree that God did it -- and that settles the matter right there.

Also, way to cherry pick your quotes, as usual, AV. Just before that, Paul says to judge those within the church and let those outside be judged by God.

For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, since Muslims agree with you that God did it, that settles the matter right there, as well?

Muslims don't agree with us that God did it.

By "God did it", we mean God; not the primary [moon] deity of the Quraysh tribe that Mohammad came from.

Our God has a Son, Jesus Christ the Righteous.

Their god has no son.

 

[Targ]

Then why do you debate with theistic evolutionists, but not other Christians?

 

[MoonLancer]

Thank you, sir -- and you too!

We don't have that burden of fighting and arguing amongst ourselves; then calling it "peer review" and going home like we did something spectacular.

God said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" -- not "Blessed are the peer reviewers".

Peacemakers? like when Protestants and Catholics were at war and were killing each other?

That's so much better then peer review

 

[AV1611VET]

Also, way to cherry pick your quotes, as usual, AV. Just before that, Paul says to judge those within the church and let those outside be judged by God.

So?

Does that mean we are to debate one another on a public forum where others are literally dying to hear the Gospel?

Ro 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.

Two Christians debating doctrine is called variance, and variance before the general public is a sin.

 

[AV1611VET]

Then why do you debate with theistic evolutionists, but not other Christians?

I do at times -- to a point; then I stop responding.

 

[AV1611VET]

Peacemakers? like when Protestants and Catholics were at war and were killing each other?

I can't answer for Protestants and Catholics -- I am neither.

 

[MoonLancer]

Two Christians debating doctrine is called variance, and variance before the general public is a sin.

It seems more like hiding the truth of how fractured Christianity really is to save face when talking about absolute truth.

 

[MoonLancer]

I can't answer for Protestants and Catholics -- I am neither.

of course you cant. History is inconvenient like that.

 

[Cabal]

Thank you, sir -- and you too!

We don't have that burden of fighting and arguing amongst ourselves; then calling it "peer review" and going home like we did something spectacular.

God said, "Blessed are the peacemakers" -- not "Blessed are the peer reviewers".

What about the wilfuly ignorant?

(Yeah, I know, I'm a TE, and we don't count, so argue away)