Why I Don't Believe In Atheism's Creation Myth

[Doveaman]

Get ready for the answer........ Evolution! We are a social species and these behavorial characteristics evolved to help us survive and reproduce in a social setting.

Evolution of the gaps.

 

[Tomatoman]

Doveaman:

Evolution of the gaps.

Er, no.

I take it evolutionary psychology isn't a subject you've ever heard of.

 

[Doveaman]

Yes, but the difference is that CMBR has been proven to exist, its observable.

Christianity has been proven to exists, it's observable.

You have simply asserted that your sixth sense exists and that it is dependant on christianity. You still haven't provided any evidence for it.

What I actually said was Christianity is evidence of the sixth sense (faith) just as CMBR is evidence of the Big-Bang: "For we walk by faith, not by sight." - 2 Cor 5:7.

 

[Doveaman]

Doveaman:

Er, no.

I take it evolutionary psychology isn't a subject you've ever heard of.

I take it "God did it" isn't a subject you've ever heard of. "God did it" makes more sense.

 

[Tomatoman]

Doveaman:

I take it "God did it" isn't a subject you've ever heard of. "God did it" makes more sense.

You've never heard of it, have you?

 

[driewerf]

Originally Posted by Honkytnkmn

You are not totally without God, you may deny God but you still benefit from the qualities of God on Earth. Love, Compassion, Truth, Justice.
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I don't buy the idea that without God there would be no love, compassion, truth or justice. Love and compassion are human qualities that only people with Antisocial Personality Disorder lack. Truth is the opposite of falsehood. Justice is determined by our courts.



OK.

Indeed. These things are humans. Suppose all humans die (a nuclear holocaust, anyone?) Much of animals survive. Your god would still be there. But no humans, would there still be love and compassion on this planet? I don't think so.

 

[driewerf]

Ahhh but where do us humans get these qualities?

 

[MoonLancer]

Christianity has been proven to exists, it's observable.
What I actually said was Christianity is evidence of the sixth sense (faith) just as CMBR is evidence of the Big-Bang: "For we walk by faith, not by sight." - 2 Cor 5:7.

faith is not a sense.

Sense - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and since its not a sense, it cannot be used to claim Christianity is observable. And since its not observable it cant be proven to exist.

Thanks, have a nice day.

 

[Mobiosity]

Indeed. These things are humans. Suppose all humans die (a nuclear holocaust, anyone?) Much of animals survive. Your god would still be there. But no humans, would there still be love and compassion on this planet? I don't think so.

I don't think you have a pet.

 

[Honkytnkmn]

I see what you're trying to say here, but it doesn't really hold up. If we are only a series of chemical reactions, these chemical reactions control us we wouldn't control them. This means that any act done by a man is just his own physiological chemistry makeup compelling him to do whatever.

There couldn't be any choice, its just how he/she is.

 

[Cabal]

I see what you're trying to say here, but it doesn't really hold up. If we are only a series of chemical reactions, these chemical reactions control us we wouldn't control them. This means that any act done by a man is just his own physiological chemistry makeup compelling him to do whatever.

There couldn't be any choice, its just how he/she is.

Our brain acts before we've registered that we've made a choice, mind.

Also, free will is somewhat untenable when you factor in a deity who is omniscient.

 

[Honkytnkmn]

Our brain acts before we've registered that we've made a choice, mind.

Also, free will is somewhat untenable when you factor in a deity who is omniscient.

Knowing a choice one will make and forcing them to make that choice are two different things.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

I see what you're trying to say here, but it doesn't really hold up. If we are only a series of chemical reactions, these chemical reactions control us we wouldn't control them. This means that any act done by a man is just his own physiological chemistry makeup compelling him to do whatever.

There couldn't be any choice, its just how he/she is.

Why couldn't we control them? Obviously we do (for the most part, those with lack of impulse control are usually labeled as socio/psychopathic). Again, human behavior is well studied and understood. Every action, right or wrong, can be explained, no appeal to the supernatural needed.

 

[Cabal]

Knowing a choice one will make and forcing them to make that choice are two different things.

If there exists omniscience, then the choice has already been made for you.

 

[Skaloop]

Knowing a choice one will make and forcing them to make that choice are two different things.

But knowing the choice someone will make removes the possibility that they will make a different choice. So the choice is an illusion to the maker of that choice if another entity know the choice they will make.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

But knowing the choice someone will make removes the possibility that they will make a different choice. So the choice is an illusion to the maker of that choice if another entity know the choice they will make.

This ^^

"Free will" is anything but in the christian scenario.

 

[Doveaman]

faith is not a sense.

Like you would know.

"There is no firm agreement among neurologists as to the number of senses because of differing definitions of what constitutes a sense." - Same Source

 

[driewerf]

Originally Posted by Doveaman Do scientists have evidence for dark-matter or dark-energy? What is it?

I'll make it easier: What is the evidence for the Big-Bang?

Yes, but the difference is that CMBR has been proven to exist, its observable. You have simply asserted that your sixth sense exists and that it is dependant on christianity. You still haven't provided any evidence for it.

Marcus

Even better. The CMBR was preditcted before it was observed by George Gamow. He even calculated a value for it very close to the measured value (calculated 5K, observed 2.7K)

 

[sandwiches]

Like you would know.

"There is no firm agreement among neurologists as to the number of senses because of differing definitions of what constitutes a sense." - Same Source

Hamburgers are a sense, too!

 

[Doveaman]

But knowing the choice someone will make removes the possibility that they will make a different choice. So the choice is an illusion to the maker of that choice if another entity know the choice they will make.

You showed that they won't make a different choice, but you haven't shown why the person isn't making a choice.

The "illusion" part is just your opinion.