why humans are not primates

[HitchSlap]

As long as we agree it's a story.

Admit it, you reject ToE solely based on religious reasons.

 

[Doveaman]

And yet all the evidence shows that we evolved from beings that had prehensile feet. The fossil evidence shows that.

The fossil evidence doesn't show evolution. The make-believe story explains evolution.

And we don't 'believe' in evolution.

Cool.
Neither do I.

You can't believe in a scientific theory. You either accept it or you don't.

You also can't prove a scientific theory. You either assume it or you don't.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The fossil evidence doesn't show evolution. The make-believe story explains evolution.

Well it certainly doesn't explain the creation described in the Bible.

Cool.
Neither do I.
You also can't prove a scientific theory. You either assume it or you don't.

I see you're trying to twist the wording to prove something only you can see. All of the evidence points to evolution. It shows the change from less complex organism to more highly complicated organisms. Your claim of it being a story and your unwillingness to look at the evidence does not make it go away.

 

[Doveaman]

If you'll notice, this monkey is hanging from its prehensile tail.

Thanks for the observation.

This is how we know that we and the other apes are not primates -- we do not have tails.

This is how we know that we are not apes or the other primates -- we do not have prehensile feet.

We can see that apes are related to primates by their prehensile feet. We do not see that relation in humans.

Surely you understand your own failure here.

No, but I understand yours.

"Having grasping feet" is a bad definition of primate, because birds would be primates.

That is not how I define primates. That is how I am differentiating primates from humans.

Showing that there are differences between gorillas, chimps, and humans is just not pertinent information, because we know they are not identical. The question is "What defines a primate?" When you use the actual definition, rather than your badly contrived one, humans are primates.

I am not showing the difference between gorillas, chimps, and humans (that's your straw-man), I am showing what differentiates all primates from humans.

 

[HitchSlap]

That is not how I define primates. That is how I am differentiating primates from humans.
I am not showing the difference between gorillas, chimps, and humans (that's your straw-man), I am showing what differentiates all primates from humans.

Cool. Next you can tell us all on how we're alike.

 

[AirPo]

No it isn't.

The human hands is closely related to the shape of primate feet.

It's not difficult to see which one of these feet is not like the others:

Except that all primates have the same prehensile feet, which humans conveniently do not have.

As the drawing shows, clearly that's incorrect. Not one of those foots is the same as the other.

 

[AirPo]

Anyone can invent a make-belief story to explain foot structures, but it is still a make-belief story.

QED!

The difference is not in the structure of the toes, it is in the structure of the feet. Grasping with toes is not the difference, grasping with feet is the difference.

 

[AirPo]

The difference is in the foot, not in the toe joints.

A prehensile foot carries an opposable big toe which humans do not have.

Human toes have joints that allow them some measure of grasp, but this is no different from an elephant holding a ball in the joints of its legs.

Do you just make this stuff up?

 

[Aman777]

I was using 'story' in a sarcastic sense. The theory of evolution is no more a story than the Declaration of Independence is a story.

Sure it is. It's a made up story by men who have an incomplete idea of where Humans originated. The problem with this totally incomplete story is that the men who dreamed it up did NOT know that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. When they made up the evolution fantasy that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, the traditional religious story did NOT teach that Humans were made on another Earth which was "clean dissolved" in water. Therefore, the evolutionists didn't see the importance of the flood story.

Today, they are caught in God's SNARE, which He set with the flood. They've been teaching their incomplete false story for more than 50 years now, and it will cost many of them their own lives for they have offended many little children who believed in Jesus before they were forced into believing the false ToE. Amen?

 

[AirPo]

Sure it is. It's a made up story by men who have an incomplete idea of where Humans originated. The problem with this totally incomplete story is that the men who dreamed it up did NOT know that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. When they made up the evolution fantasy that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, the traditional religious story did NOT teach that Humans were made on another Earth which was "clean dissolved" in water. Therefore, the evolutionists didn't see the importance of the flood story.

Today, they are caught in God's SNARE, which He set with the flood. They've been teaching their incomplete false story for more than 50 years now, and it will cost many of them their own lives for they have offended many little children who believed in Jesus before they were forced into believing the false ToE. Amen?

The irony!

 

[Aman777]

The irony!

No irony since I support what i write with the agreement of Scripture, Science and History, unlike the False ToE which at best is only a partial truth since it is nothing more than descent within His and Their kinds. Can you tell us the difference between the kinds made by Jesus and the kinds made by God?

 

[Hoghead1]

Well, Amen, I certainly think you should take a more positive attitude here. If God could make a man out of a monkey, just think what he could do with a jackass like you!

 

[AirPo]

No irony since I support what i write with the agreement of Scripture, Science and History, unlike the False ToE which at best is only a partial truth since it is nothing more than descent within His and Their kinds. Can you tell us the difference between the kinds made by Jesus and the kinds made by God?

They are both fictional, so no difference.

 

[crjmurray]

Great an Aman thread

 

[essentialsaltes]

That is not how I define primates.

Well, if that foot thing is not part of the definition of primates, how do you know that humans are not primates? Maybe humans match the actual definition!

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Sure it is. It's a made up story by men who have an incomplete idea of where Humans originated. The problem with this totally incomplete story is that the men who dreamed it up did NOT know that Adam's world was totally destroyed in the flood. When they made up the evolution fantasy that Humans evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, the traditional religious story did NOT teach that Humans were made on another Earth which was "clean dissolved" in water. Therefore, the evolutionists didn't see the importance of the flood story.

Today, they are caught in God's SNARE, which He set with the flood. They've been teaching their incomplete false story for more than 50 years now, and it will cost many of them their own lives for they have offended many little children who believed in Jesus before they were forced into believing the false ToE. Amen?

Yeah, no.

 

[Hoghead1]

You, Aman, some sort of scholar of religion science, etc.? You couldn't prove it by me. You can't seem to write a coherent sentence. This email and some others you sent you give the distinct impression they were either written by someone who didn't care to edit, or by someone who is from a third-world country, has an impoverished education, and needs to take another course in English as a second language, because, believe you me, you sure didn't learn anything in the previous one you took.

 

[Hoghead1]

The only thing made up here is your paranoid understanding of science and the Bible.

 

[florida2]

Great an Aman thread

It was either that or yet another electric universe thread. At least Aman is entertaining.

 

[Aman777]

You, Aman, some sort of scholar of religion science, etc.? You couldn't prove it by me. You can't seem to write a coherent sentence. This email and some others you sent you give the distinct impression they were either written by someone who didn't care to edit, or by someone who is from a third-world country, has an impoverished education, and needs to take another course in English as a second language, because, believe you me, you sure didn't learn anything in the previous one you took.

False accusation from someone who CANNOT support their religion with actual Scripture, but ONLY by the words of mortal men. With all of your wonderful education, which you proclaim to everyone who opposes your views, you don't seem to have read this verse:

1Jo 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of Him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of ALL things, and is Truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in Him.

Your incomplete views, which cannot be supported Scripturally, reveal someone who

Yeah, no.

understand God's Holy Word, so your views are soundly refuted. Amen?