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You cite pro-evolutionist atheist sources.The problem with those particular sources is not that they are religious, but that they are propaganda, attempting to create an implausible, easily refuted "straw man" version of the theory of evolution. They also suffer from the same fault as you sometimes do, assuming that anyone who differs in any particular with their theology is an atheist who wants to attack religion.
Oh! Ok! No problem!
You cite pro-evolutionist atheist sources.
So what? None of them systematically misrepresent what the theory of evolution claims. No, if you are going to argue effectively against the theory of evolution, you are going to have to argue against the real thing, not some straw man erected by a creationist ministry.You cite pro-evolutionist atheist sources.
If it's just someone saying how much they want a God to be real or how God has affected their lives it's meaningless, you could get the same words and stories from a Muslim or a Mormon, would you believe a Muslim or a Mormon about the likely hood of their Gods existence? if all every God needs is faith to believe in them then every God is as real and as likely as the next.Any source provided will be unceremoniously tagged as worthless so one source is as good as another.
So what? None of them systematically misrepresent what the theory of evolution claims. No, if you are going to argue effectively against the theory of evolution, you are going to have to argue against the real thing, not some straw man erected by a creationist ministry.
Suppose I came up to you and said, "Christianity is a stupid religion. Christians believe that Jesus was an Olympic figure skater and that we're all going to Heaven on ice skates. Isn't that silly?" What would your reaction be? What would you think of the anti-Christian website I got that from?
Now you know how we feel about the sources you cite.
The point was that it is incorrect to state the beliefs of others incorrectly.
-- Oh, man.
This is just solid aurum to the max!
This has got to be post-of-the-year.
I ... Mr. YEC, Omphalos, Last Thursday, everything but Embedded Age ... should make it my signature.
But I won't.
No.You keep stating that those are your beliefs.
No.
You guys keep stating they are my beliefs.
I have seen logic discarded as if it were worthless and evidence dismissed regardless of validity. It isn't worth the time to debate in detail.If it's just someone saying how much they want a God to be real or how God has affected their lives it's meaningless, you could get the same words and stories from a Muslim or a Mormon, would you believe a Muslim or a Mormon about the likely hood of their Gods existence? if all every God needs is faith to believe in them then every God is as real and as likely as the next.
That's because you guys keep cuttin' in line.You are the last person that should ever be criticizing the beliefs of any other memebers here.
I am not going to argue against the evolution idea because the evolutionist reaction is a foregone conclusion..So what? None of them systematically misrepresent what the theory of evolution claims. No, if you are going to argue effectively against the theory of evolution, you are going to have to argue against the real thing, not some straw man erected by a creationist ministry.
Suppose I came up to you and said, "Christianity is a stupid religion. Christians believe that Jesus was an Olympic figure skater and that we're all going to Heaven on ice skates. Isn't that silly?" What would your reaction be? What would you think of the anti-Christian website I got that from?
Now you know how we feel about the sources you cite.
I have seen logic discarded as if it were worthless and evidence dismissed regardless of validity. It isn't worth the time to debate in detail.
I am not going to argue against the evolution idea because the evolutionist reaction is a foregone conclusion..
I did substantiate it, then I was very clear on asking you how you see my comment as a false claim, but it's also clear you are not going to answer.
Once again, the point was, anyone stating evolution is fact over what the Bible teaches, is saying the bible is not true. So, in turn, some of us who believe the Bible to be true, must conclude, to say evolution is fact is not telling the truth.
My guess as to why you don't answer? Because that fact is so elementary, they're just isn't any refuting it. I can go back and change the wording to my post if you are going to dwell on that instead of the issue, and then see what happens. Think I'll do that.
Fine, ask your question more properly and we will see how it goes.
I agree it's all mythical nonsense from start to finish, the next best thing to evidence is faith in fact it's so popular every religion in the world swears by it.I have seen logic discarded as if it were worthless and evidence dismissed regardless of validity. It isn't worth the time to debate in detail.
My belief in an ID isn't based ion faith.I agree it's all mythical nonsense from start to finish, the next best thing to evidence is faith in fact it's so popular every religion in the world swears by it.
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