Why evolution isn't scientific

[pitabread]

by i just showed that the evidences shows that without some parts the system doesnt work.

By why assume it couldn't evolve?

This goes back to what I said previously about parts potentially having other functions or being part of other systems, etc. How have you ruled all of that out?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

and yet this eyespot can only detect light. so its basically the same.

There's a difference between simple and complex and between primitive and sophisticated. The earliest eyespots would not have the complexity and sophistication of contemporary eyespots, which almost certainly means they were functionally inferior.

i also gave you this analogy: say that you want to design a minimal light sensor to make your car move by the light. how many parts you will need to such a mission?

Irrelevant. Cars aren't alive and don't evolve.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

and yet this eyespot can only detect light. so its basically the same. i also gave you this analogy: say that you want to design a minimal light sensor to make your car move by the light. how many parts you will need to such a mission?

That was answered in post #1175. Did you read it and understand it?

 

[Kylie]

because it cant evolve stepwise like evolution required.

Yes it can.

If you actually understood how evolution works, you;d understand how limbs can evolve in a series of many small steps.

 

[pitabread]

If you actually understood how evolution works

If creationists understood how evolution worked, this forum wouldn't exist.

 

[xianghua]

Yes it can.

If you actually understood how evolution works, you;d understand how limbs can evolve in a series of many small steps.

if you actually understood how genetic works, you will understand why it cant.

 

[xianghua]

By why assume it couldn't evolve?

This goes back to what I said previously about parts potentially having other functions or being part of other systems, etc. How have you ruled all of that out?

again; you showed no evidence for that. basically it means that you have no evidence for the main claim of evolution.

 

[xianghua]

Irrelevant. Cars aren't alive and don't evolve.

irrelevant since i talking about designer here. so you can change anything you want. like mutations.

 

[pitabread]

again; you showed no evidence for that. basically it means that you have no evidence for the main claim of evolution.

I'm not the one making the claims here though. You're claiming that IC means that things can't evolve. The burden is on you to demonstrate that.

You haven't shown that to be true.

 

[VirOptimus]

if you actually understood how genetic works, you will understand why it cant.

No, genetics support the ToE fully.

Learn the basics.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

irrelevant since i talking about designer here. so you can change anything you want. like mutations.

So your support for IC is "a designer can do anything they want"? Unfalsifiable assertions are neither scientific nor evidence. You really have no idea, do you?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

irrelevant since i talking about designer here. so you can change anything you want. like mutations.

You claimed it was an analogy and it isn't, because the relevant features are not analogous; cars don't evolve. Therefore it's irrelevant.

 

[bhsmte]

No, genetics support the ToE fully.

Learn the basics.

The basics, are far too painful to acknowledge. Hence, the crude defense mechanisms come out.

 

[Kylie]

if you actually understood how genetic works, you will understand why it cant.

lol, that's a laugh. Love to see you try to explain it.

 

[the iconoclast]

Hey @DogmaHunter. Did you see my last post to you?

Cheers

 

[the iconoclast]

I’m not resposible for your education.

This conversation is over.

Hello there

It is true, you are not obligated to give out intellectual instructions to me but nether the less im curious about what you have to say.

I understand that you may believe that my posts are not quality, you perceive im ignorant and im not in touch with reality.

It does not seem fair for you to keep the 'truth' to yourself - your opinions must be correct, if they were not you wouldnt have them.

Help me to achieve the same level of reality as you have, as it seems im lacking knowledge or awareness in general (.eg uneducated or unsophisticated.)

What have you understood about evolution?
What is this understanding you speak of?
Cheers

 

[the iconoclast]

The basics, are far too painful to acknowledge. Hence, the crude defense mechanisms come out.

Hello my dear

Or in my case - my favourite moral nihlist @VirOptimus - you ask to explain the basics and they will not or cannot! hence the crude defense mechanisms come out.

 

[VirOptimus]

Hello there

It is true, you are not obligated to give out intellectual instructions to me but nether the less im curious about what you have to say.

I understand that you may believe that my posts are not quality, you perceive im ignorant and im not in touch with reality.

It does not seem fair for you to keep the 'truth' to yourself - your opinions must be correct, if they were not you wouldnt have them.

Help me to achieve the same level of reality as you have, as it seems im lacking knowledge or awareness in general (.eg uneducated or unsophisticated.)

What have you understood about evolution?
What is this understanding you speak of?
Cheers

There are several good resources on the ToE available online. Use google.

Open your mind, learn basic science.

 

[bhsmte]

Hello my dear

Or in my case - my favourite moral nihlist @VirOptimus - you ask to explain the basics and they will not or cannot! hence the crude defense mechanisms come out.

Educating oneself, is a choice.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Hey @DogmaHunter. Did you see my last post to you?

Cheers

The only things I've seen these past 2 weeks, were lots of friends, family and enormous amounts of food and booze.

I have some catching up to do.