FredVB
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I have hardly come to this forum, and some others that are with a like issue, as I know it involves debating that God is there with those unbelievers coming here to argue that there is no evidence of God, and especially that God is Yahweh, with believers who are in these forums. I don't quite understand it. Why after all come to Christian forums, to argue this with believers, when nobody's mind is going to be changed? Why not communicate that somewhere else? Believers here might be led to argue with each of you who says there isn't such evidence with how there is evidence, but would those of you doing that listen and openly consider it, rather than just dismiss or deny all of it? The real answer I think to give to you that are involved in that is that you have yet to even ask God to make the presence of God known to you. If you won't have any faith to put in God who makes each and all of us, God won't have any relationship with you, and it will be a barrier to seeing any evidence of God. There is then only answers to be found in creatures or from what may be found from creation. Christ made the way for access, to know of God and more about God. But with not wanting anything of that, it seems there is fruitless pursuit coming to Christian forums to have discussion with questioning God.
I have communicated in several pagan forums. They generally make mention of the spiritual and God illegal in their forums, claiming it is not 'science' basically, at least in my experience. The soul winners for Satan have an easy time of it there, to appear to know what they are talking about since they 'have the floor'. Like a lion seeking whom it may devour, they tend to prey on the weak of faith.
On a Christian forum, they tend to be somewhat more in check, but relentlessly attempt to cast doubts on God and His word, and creation, and belittle believers as much as they can get away with, many of them. It is not so much about a seeking for truth, but a con game and deception and attempt to cause some weak ones to stumble. They seem to feel some inner unexplained inspiration and drive to sow division and doubt.
Maybe I am missing something? They sure offer pathetic resistance when it comes to actual discussion of evidences and the basis for claims from science regarding creation issues! Like a paper tiger. So...why else would they be here...?
Why? Because Scientists and Rational people are tired if religious people Spreading Ignorance in schools and the world.
Not all forums want to debate about Theology.
Not all pagan forums ban the talk of God either. It's funny how you demonize them for believing in a different religion, typical bigoted Christians.
No, we're here because it's pure comedy gold.
The fact that you can't see a Fallacy in creation ideology is amazing, let alone Intelligent Design.
The only people who are fools are the ones who believe the world are 6000 years old.
There is then admitted retaliation, although involving believers who have nothing to do with any teaching going on at a school. From that perspective there is accusation of spreading ignorance, dismissive of any informed studies with that. The alleged ignorance is just any disagreement with the same positions. Who demonizes who? There is admission that the only reason the unbelievers post in this Christian forum to argue against believing God's presence is for humor for themselves, and no one is convincing anyone. Yet this is with calling those seeing intelligent design in all the great complexities around and such of even ourselves fools.
Weren't there rules to agree to when joining the forum? This is in Christian forums, and just about all believers see this design, to greater or lesser extent. And I raised a question, which is on some level a challenge, though I don't have expectations for it to happen. You have not yet asked God who made you, providing good things because of caring for you, to be shown God's real presence. Why not? I say there would then just be desire that God would not truly be existing, with nothing then to show God does exist, and it is that strong so nothing contrary is expected. I am not talking of making a sarcastic challenge for a miracle for your own benefit, as if God was something else if existing, other than sovereign God, and that you can just bargain the deals. God being truly God does not owe you that. It is your heart that must be ready to respond rightly to God.
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