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World is much more complex than youtube videos.
Interesting thread indeed i like it,I know that's why I've just started this thread.
Creation - The Micro & The Macro
This is just a theory. I have very often asked myself, could we & the earth be the micro of God who is the macro. To understand this better here is a link. There are 75 Verses About The Womb In The Biblewww.christianforums.com
The 7th day IS Saturday.And what is the sabbath day ? Jews all reckon it's Saturday.
Sabbath & Saturday in spanish is sábado.The 7th day IS Saturday.
We're not Jews. Christians celebrate resurrection Sunday, the first day of the week.
So?Sabbath & Saturday in spanish is sábado.
BTW, in Europe (and all countries following the ISO standard), Sunday is the seventh day of the week and Monday is the first day.The 7th day IS Saturday.
We're not Jews. Christians celebrate resurrection Sunday, the first day of the week.
BTW, in Europe (and all countries following the ISO standard), Sunday is the seventh day of the week and Monday is the first day.
I am not talking about rest, I am talking about the week's beginning and end. For example in mine calendar, Monday is the first day, because my country follows international standard - ISO 8601.Yes ever since Constantine, a sun worshiper.
On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.
Jesus died on the Friday so he wouldn't die on the sabbath & resurrected 3 days there after, putting the resurrection of Jesus on the Monday, the first day.
Who became a Christian and legalised the Christian religion; believers no longer had to hide in catacombs for fear of persecution.Yes ever since Constantine, a sun worshiper.
Or day of the Son?On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.
Yes, Jesus died on a Friday, before 6.00p.m.Jesus died on the Friday so he wouldn't die on the sabbath & resurrected 3 days there after, putting the resurrection of Jesus on the Monday, the first day.
I think, generally, we are saying that some verses/passages are literal but not others.I apologize for not having the time to keep up with my thread. I've lost the general scope of the conversation and don't feel like reading the lastb 4 pages of replies. What's the general gist of what were all talking about?
Just curious to know what you and others might think. If someone said "Amen, amen I say to you" would you think a metaphor was in the offing?That is exactly what I was meaning...
Just curious to know what you and others might think. If someone said "Amen, amen I say to you" would you think a metaphor was in the offing?
Thanks. I will now have to check to see if any parables start out with "Amen, amen I say to you".My point was that Jesus told us His words were not to be taken literally when He spoke in Parables.
From this we know that not all scriptures should be taken literally.
"Amen, amen I say to you" could proceed a parable.
Must we anticipate that he will operate irrationally?
And did the rooster crow once, or twice?Just a question for someone who says we should have a literal view of Scripture. Do you still have two eyes? Have you not gouged at least one of them out yet? If you still have two eyes I suspect you treat at least some of Scripture non-literally.
I always like to ask what the meaning of the first three words of the bible mean. i.e. the beginning of what?I doubt any Christian takes ALL of God's word symbolically.
Does any Christian do that?
I don't know of any Christian who does otherwise.
Not all of Scripture is literally true.
Jesus was not literally a door, a vine, a lamb or bread.
Some Scripture can be believed literally but not applied literally.
Paul asked Timothy to bring his cloak and his scrolls when he visited him, 2 Timothy 4:15. Did he mean that literally? Yes, he wanted, and needed, them. Can we apply that literally to ourselves? No.
Have you read the book of Revekation recently?1. Jesus, The Apostles, and the Prophets had a literal view of scripture. An example of this is when Jesus fought against Satan he used scripture to combat the devil. Paul also called scripture the very word of God and viewed scripture and took Jesus's words VERY literally.
2. Jesus came to fulfill the law and the Prophets. One of the reasons why he came to save his sheep was to correct many views of scripture at the time among the Jews at the time (mainoy the scribes and pharisees) and his words and the words of his Prophets and Apostles should be viewed as final and definitive.
3. Moses who saw the very back of God and recieved many of the words of God through conversations with him took the literal words of God literally.
4. It's foolishness to take the word of God symbolically because it undermines the authority of God and the very center of the Christian faith. The very center of the Christian faith is the words that Jesus said and his commandments and when we take his words symbolically we twist the very words that Jesus spoke and the Apostles thought were very important and recorded down.
5. Just because the Bible contains stories and humor does not mean that the words of those that carried authority in the Bible should be twisted. This includes Jesus, the apostles, and the Prophets.
Now people can have varying views on the interpretations of scripture, but ALL Christians should take the very words of God very, very seriously and a symbolic view of scripture undermines that.
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