Why don't protestants bless Mary?

[Grafted In]

Are there any non-Catholic historical sources of the N.T. Canon?

according to your Protestant oral traditions...." and "You agreed that Sola Scriptura is not a divine truth." 

 

[Albion]

according to your Protestant oral traditions...." and "You agreed that Sola Scriptura is not a divine truth."

Thank you. In the absence of our friend, I feel that we've 'kept faith' now.

 

[Grafted In]

"Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are these not His sisters here with us?” So they were offended at Him. "

Well,yeah, but
Are there any non-Catholic historical sources of the N.T. Canon?

 

[Albion]

Are there any non-Catholic historical sources of the N.T. Canon?

Are there any Catholic historical sources of the NT canon? If so, you have the Protestant historical sources.

 

[Grafted In]

It's sad really. These are supposed born again Christians who suffer from OCD. How,can we According to your Protestand oral tradiations. get out of here!!!!!!" aaccording to your Protestant oral traditions...." and "You agreed that Sola Scriptura is not a divine truth."You agreed that Sola Scriptura is not a divine truth." Help them?

 

[patricius79]

Which one of the following scriptures, do you personally believe refer to "cousins", rather than actual brothers.

Do you have any New Testament verse's that have "brother" as a reference to "cousin"

• Then His brothers and His mother came, and standing outside they sent to Him, calling Him. Mark 3:31

• After this He went down to Capernaum, He, His mother, His brothers, and His disciples; and they did not stay there many days. John 2:12

• Then His mother and brothers came to Him, and could not approach Him because of the crowd. Luke 8:19

• These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with His brothers. Acts 1:14

• Is this not the carpenter’s son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon, and Judas?Matthew 13:55

• Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are not His sisters here with us?” So they were offended at Him. Mark 6:3

• But I saw none of the other apostles except James, the Lord’s brother. Galatians 1:19

JLB

I think you are already testifying to the Ever-Virginity of the Mother of God, since--as we've seen--nobody can provide a non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon, which is not in Scripture.

Also, do you agree with the Bible's teaching that Christ's Flesh is True Food (John 6:55), and that we should hold fast to the traditions, just as they were handed on, whether orally or by letter? 2 Thessalonians 2:15

The Biblical references you quote are all references to near relations, such as cousins.

James and Joses are Jesus's "brothers", but we know they were children of "the other Mary"--Mary's "sister"--the wife of Clopas.

"There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James the younger and of Joses, and Salome" (Mark 15:40).

"But standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene" (John 19:25).

 

[patricius79]

Are there any Catholic historical sources of the NT canon? If so, you have the Protestant historical sources.

How do you know which books are in the New Testament, except by the authority of the Catholic Church, which holds that the Mother of God is Immaculate and Ever-Virgin?

 

[Albion]

How do you know which books are in the New Testament, except by the authority of the Catholic Church, which holds that the Mother of God is Immaculate and Ever-Virgin?

I could follow the guidance of my church, which is older than the Roman Catholic Church. However, I do know why the 66 books of the Bible are inspired and why the others that some denominations include are not.

 

[patricius79]

I could follow the guidance of my church, which is older than the Roman Catholic Church.

My understanding is that Anglicanism was founded in the 1500s by Henry the VIII because he wanted to divorce his wife. What is the earliest Anglican or any non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon?

 

[Aldebaran]

"Is this not the carpenter, the Son of Mary, and brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And are these not His sisters here with us?” So they were offended at Him. "

This verse right here could be used to say that James, Judas and Simon should be prayed to as well since they came from the same womb as Jesus did.

 

[patricius79]

...James, Judas and Simon ... came from the same womb as Jesus did.

Neither the Bible nor the Church teach that.

Both Catholics and Protestants testify to the authority of the Catholic Church's Tradition, which holds that the Mother of God is Immaculate and Ever-Virgin.

 

[Aldebaran]

Neither the Bible nor the Church teach that.

Both Catholics and Protestants testify to the authority of the Catholic Church's Tradition, which holds that the Mother of God is Immaculate and Ever-Virgin.

Then where did Jesus get his brothers from?

 

[concretecamper]

My understanding is that Anglicanism was founded in the 1500s by Henry VIII

It is more than your understanding....it is fact.

 

[patricius79]

Then where did Jesus get his brothers from?

They were near relations. James and Joses are called Jesus's "brother", but they were the sons of "the other Mary", the Mother of God's "sister", the wife of Clopas.

 

[concretecamper]

Then where did Jesus get his brothers from?

Paul refers to Christians as his brothers and sisters. I do not have the same mother as Paul.

This point has been argued by many since the earliest days of Christianity. Jerome makes a compelling argument....which the vast vast vast majority of scholars agree with. However, the will always be some doubters. It has been settled by the Universal Church...Mary only bore Christ.

Most protestant also hold to the teachings of the Universal Church with regards to this questions.

 

[Albion]

My understanding is that Anglicanism was founded in the 1500s by Henry the VIII because he wanted to divorce his wife. What is the earliest Anglican or any non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon?

The church in Britain was planted there as early as AD 37, which would be before the presumed arrival of Peter in Rome. The event was commemorated in the opening ceremonies of the most recent Olympic Games.

 

[patricius79]

The church in Britain was planted there as early as AD 37, which would be before the presumed arrival of Peter in Rome. The event was commemorated in the opening ceremonies of the most recent Olympic Games.

But Anglicanism didn't begin until Henry the VIII wanted a divorce, more than 1500 years after Christ founded the Catholic Church, the Tradition of which is the source of the N.T. Canon.

This same Tradition holds that the Mother of God is the Immaculate Mediatrix of All Graces.

What is the earliest non-Catholic or Protestant source of the N.T. Canon?

 

[JLB777]

I think you are already testifying to the Ever-Virginity of the Mother of God, since--as we've seen--nobody can provide a non-Catholic source of the N.T. Canon, which is not in Scripture.

No such word in the bible as "Catholic".

The scriptures are from the Jews.

No such scripture in the bible that says Mary is the mother of God.


Mary is the mother of the Man Jesus Christ.


The Lord was God before He became became flesh.

Mary gave birth to the flesh and blood Body of the Man Jesus Christ.


If you have a scripture that says Mary is the mother of God, then post it.


If not, then the term "Mother of God" is a man made term from a man made organisation.


JLB

 

[patricius79]

No such word in the bible as "Catholic".

The scriptures are from the Jews.

No such scripture in the bible that says Mary is the mother of God.


Mary is the mother of the Man Jesus Christ.


The Lord was God before He became became flesh.

Mary gave birth to the flesh and blood Body of the Man Jesus Christ.


If you have a scripture that says Mary is the mother of God, then post it.


If not, then the term "Mother of God" is a man made term from a man made organisation.


JLB

Do you agree that Jesus is God? The Bible says that Mary conceived Jesus.

Yes, the Jews had an O.T. Canon. How do you know which books are in the New Testament except through the Catholic Church, which holds that Mary is the Immaculate Mother of God and of all Humankind?

Also, is the phrase "New Testament" in the Bible?

 

[Paul1963]

No such word in the bible as "Catholic".

The scriptures are from the Jews.

No such scripture in the bible that says Mary is the mother of God.


Mary is the mother of the Man Jesus Christ.


The Lord was God before He became became flesh.

Mary gave birth to the flesh and blood Body of the Man Jesus Christ.


If you have a scripture that says Mary is the mother of God, then post it.


If not, then the term "Mother of God" is a man made term from a man made organisation.


JLB

True there is not the word catholic in the Bible but the question of what it means and how early it was used goes back to at least to the early 2nd century by the church father's. These questions also came up in there day and they came up with these thoughts.