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Why doesnt creationism need any data?

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Hespera, Jul 19, 2011.

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  1. British Bulldog

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    Well, of course, it's marvellous that you can see your non-visible God in action. But I'm sorry to say I just see someone who selectively picks and chooses incidents to attribute to God without looking objectively at whether it's justified or not.
     
  2. hasone

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    I disagree strongly with some of your points, but as you said that you posted in the wrong thread, I won't elaborate. I may find my way to wherever you intended to post it and engage you there.
     
  3. SkyWriting

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    Your allowed to say anything that wouldn't result in a class action lawsuit if printed in newspapers. This forum is not that limiting, unless personal insults are all one can muster.
     
  4. SkyWriting

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    God makes sure that I'm informed by the timing of the response. If the time between when I "give up" and simply turn the entire matter over to him is more than 3/4 of a second from the change in my situation then.....well I can't say. It's never been longer than that.

    But I do have to sweat through my part first. That's the hard part. "Easy" or egocentric prayers get no obvious answer.
     
  5. SkyWriting

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    You don't back up a thing you say with outside sources.
    The very complaint you make about others.
     
  6. hasone

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    It's true in general that an opinion needs no justification, but if you want others to share your opinion you will need to justify it somehow. A common method would be through the presentation of evidence.

    I won't go into more detail unless this derail ends up being the new direction of the thread in general.
     
  7. hasone

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    Why, then, are you here? If, as you say, you can't any Christian's mind, why talk to them?

    (that is what you're saying, right?)

    again, I disagree with some of your statements and/or find them to be fallacious, but will refrain from elaborating at the moment.
     
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    There are a lot of Christians in Britain. By Christians do you perhaps mean creationists? Do you really live in a place where there are no Christians? Everyone you know is an atheist?

    Again, I disagree with what I know of the attitude/methods/statements, but won't elaborate until I've gotten a fuller picture of it.
     
  9. Phileas

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    In Wales the largest population are sheep and as far as I know sheep aren't all that religious. Except maybe a few who believe in Baaaddhism.
     
  10. British Bulldog

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    Religion in Britain is a minority interest. I think I only know one person who is actively Christian and even he laughs at Creationists. We occasionally have a programme on tv about Creationists in America in the same way you might have a programme about people claiming to be abducted by aliens. They are taken about as seriously over here.
     
  11. AV1611VET

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    Are you saying the Pilgrims did the right thing in getting out of England?
     
  12. BondiHarry

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    I suppose the man of God should not be surprised that so many scoff at creationism when so many scoff just as readily at God's call to men to repent of their sins and live in holiness.
     
  13. British Bulldog

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    I'm just telling you about how you are perceived in a different part of the world.
     
  14. British Bulldog

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    Yes, that's the sort of stuff.
     
  15. Phileas

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    Dude, not in front of the Americans, it was only a jest. England smells anyway; Scotland is where the magic lies.

    Back (vaguely) on topic; I think I've only ever met a couple of creationists, but they were not making song and dance of it so it wasn't entirely clear. Talking openly about religion or politics to strangers is just seen as a bit of an embarassing conversation stopper. Better to keep talk to the weather and idle gossip.

    It's not that religion is actively suppressed over here, it's just not that popular or influential anymore. Like morris dancing or handlebar moustaches.
     
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  16. AV1611VET

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    Thanks, but I don't need a different part of the world to tell me how I'm perceived:

    Luke 21:17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.
     
  17. AV1611VET

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    I know religion isn't actively suppressed over there.

    Over there, you have one of the largest mosques in all of Europe.

    I don't think you would even dare to try to actively suppress religion.
     
  18. AV1611VET

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    I saw a conversation on Pogo once, where a guy from Wales reamed a guy from England, who make an innocent comment about the guy from Wales being English.

    The guy from Wales gave him a lecture on he being a Celt.
     
  19. SkyWriting

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    The 2001 census showed that slightly less than 10% of the Welsh population are regular church- or chapel-goers (a slightly smaller proportion than in England or Scotland), although about 70% of the population see themselves as Christian in some way.
    Religion in Wales - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
     
  20. SkyWriting

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    I always discount the opinion of blamers and admire doers.
    Blamers have no value to society at all.
     
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