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The sun never started the earth rotating. The sun was made after the earth.Off topic
But then again, it only takes one day to create the sun, so how long did it take for the sun to start the earth to rotate on it axis, or did it instantly start the earth to rotate at the same velocity it rotates now.
Yet seven days to create a universe, but yet it took 40 days to create a flood?
The sun never started the earth rotating. The sun was made after the earth.
Is there any objective evidence for anything at the time of creation of the earth?Is there any objective evidence to support this claim?
Is there any objective evidence for anything at the time of creation of the earth?
By that, you mean you can put together a scenario by which a planet can form from space dust and even make predictions with that information?No, because the world wasn't created.
You admit having no objective evidence then. Haha. Now as to your opinion on why you have none..sorry, that has no currency.No, because the world wasn't created.
There is objective evidence as to how the earth formed by natural means. E.g. http://www2.cnrs.fr/en/2123.htm
You admit having no objective evidence then. Haha. Now as to your opinion on why you have none..sorry, that has no currency.
The more important issue is that you in no way are in any position to challenge it.
It tells you all you need to know. Jesus spoke the world into existence. There was never a little hot speck of soup that burped out the universe, and never any random little wandering lost planet that happened to smash into earth and start it spinning. There is no proof for that at all. Just a serious misreading of the heavens.
How did He calm the seas? He spoke, they behaved instantly! How did He heal the sick? He spoke, they were 100% better instantly. How did He raise the dead? He spoke, and they were alive and well again. What makes little man think he should be able to know all things at this stage of his little existence?? What pride. What presumptuousness. What gall. What darkness.
Why did the sons of god need to no longer be able to marry women, or spirits live so directly among men? Why did men need to no longer live 1000 years, but less than a hundred? Why did the continents need to be separated? Etc etc etc. It is our job to love and trust Him, that He knows what He is doing and that it is for the best!
That's right.
God did it.
After all, when it comes to the creation week He documented what He did, when He did it, where He did it, how He did it, why He did it, what order He did it in, how long it took Him to do it, why it took Him that long, and who the eyewitnesses were.
Credit where credit is due.
Colossians 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
By contrast, these modern day Diotrephes want the credit for themselves, to the point where they dismiss God altogether and won't receive our explanations.
3 John 9 I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.
An excellent example of a Diotrephes is Edwin Hubble, who took (and/or was given) the credit for "discovering" that the universe is expanding; despite the fact that some fourteen times God makes it plain He did it.
Would "God started it" help you understand it better?The fact that you are able to even read this thread is proof that being satisfied with "Goddidit" is a poor answer.
No.KTS said:And if we were to accept that as an answer, wouldn't that be the only answer we'd eve need?
God gifted us Rudolf Virchow. Ask him.KTS said:What causes people to get sick?
Except God gifted us Dr John Snow to help with that.KTS said:And we'd leave it at that, and never learn about hygiene.
Only if the gifts God gave us, in the form of scientists, were aborted.KTS said:And we'd live in a world with much more sickness than we have now.
That's why you need to understand that God gifts us scientists to sudy His creation, and in so doing, make our lives better.KTS said:Such an answer would mean we'd never develop the tools that we have that allow us instantaneous communication around the world, or any of the other things we use to help save lives and enrich our society.
Not for eternity.KTS said:Is that a world you'd want to live in?
Would "God started it" help you understand it better?No.God gifted us Rudolf Virchow. Ask him.Except God gifted us Dr John Snow to help with that.Only if the gifts God gave us, in the form of scientists, were aborted.That's why you need to understand that God gifts us scientists to sudy His creation, and in so doing, make our lives better.Not for eternity.
I won't dispute that.If your world view was correct, then God also gifted us Darwin,
What's the reinterpretation (or, "context") of "the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved." 1Chron 16:30?One needs to have context, and look elsewhere in the bible rather than grqsping at the straw of what one feels like having it mean. In another place in the bible for example it mentionsmen as grasshoppers to God. Guess what? If one was hovering somewhere in a usual orbit circle, that is what men look like!
In another place in the bible for example it mentionsmen as grasshoppers to God. Guess what? If one was hovering somewhere in a usual orbit circle, that is what men look like!
I won't dispute that.
But in Darwin's case -- as in Nimrod's -- he ended up using his talents against God.
That's right.Making new discoveries in science is not using one's talents against God.
That's right.
God gives us scientists to find what He hid in nature.
Proverbs 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.
Unfortunately, yes.Yes, but they keep refusing to search out that truth hidden from the beginning.
Unfortunately, yes.
And some end up becoming atheists.
Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise,* they became fools,
* Homo sapiens = wise man
And look what Paul says they go on to do:
Romans 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
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