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Anything you want me to listen to or shall I give you a run down on typical sermons by immature believers?Sure. If you would like to share, I'd listen.
Anything you want me to listen to or shall I give you a run down on typical sermons by immature believers?
Better do this privately so we don’t derail the thread.
Logical post. I’d have to think about the topic to see if I remember it, but I’ll tell you this, I don’t discern a man’s maturity in christ by how well he presents subjects having nothing to do with the Kingdom of God. I discern maturity by how well a man understands matters of the Kingdom.It sounded like you mentioned a speech by Francis Collins. I was just wondering what speech. And I think it's appropriate for the topic, given that he is a theistic evolutionist. Unless the speech didn't have anything to do with theistic evolution. In which case, I might not be interested if it was a speech on what he had for breakfast or what stores he likes to shop at.
- Evidence of (very) recent geological activity (tectonic movements) on the moon is inconsistent with its supposed age of billions of years and its hot origin. Watters, T.R., et al., Evidence of Recent Thrust Faulting on the Moon Revealed by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera, Science 329(5994):936–940, 20 August 2010; DOI: 10.1126/science.1189590 (“This detection, coupled with the very young apparent age of the faults, suggests global late-stage contraction of the Moon.”) NASA pictures support biblical origin for Moon.
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- Volcanically active moons of Jupiter (Io) are consistent with youthfulness (Galileo mission recorded 80 active volcanoes). If Io had been erupting over 4.5 billion years at even 10% of its current rate, it would have erupted its entire mass 40 times. Io looks like a young moon and does not fit with the supposed billions of year’s age for the solar system. Gravitational tugging from Jupiter and other moons accounts for only some of the excess heat produced.
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- Rate of erosion of continents vertically is not consistent with the assumed old age of the earth. See Creation 22(2):18–21.
Hahaha. Sure it is. To suggest that mountains are eroding too fast, and thus should no longer exist, doesn't make any sense. New mountains are building up all the time, such as the current day growth of the himilayas.
You actually have proven his point regarding the attitude evolutionists have about others who do not share their opinion. There is a kind of religious attachment to the theory that is not seen in any branch of science. Reminds one of the INquisition in the middle ages where the catholics killed anyone opposed to their view. They were the scientists of the day since some of the priests were also scientists as far as there was science.It would have erupted it's entire mass? Haha what? Lava doesn't just disappear after it erupts from a volcano. It gets recycled and re-erupted just as it does here on earth.
Let's see what other bizarre claims we can find in here.
... But we know that mythology is a way how to describe ideas in a prescientific world.
You actually have proven his point regarding the attitude evolutionists have about others who do not share their opinion.
That’s what I mean. All your side offers is laughing or jeering at the other side all the while insisting your side is the only serious scientific side.Sometimes all you can do is laugh at some of the bizarre things people say.
That’s what I mean. All your side offers is laughing or jeering at the other side all the while insisting your side is the only serious scientific side.
Since you apparently cannot refrain from jeering even when you promise you won’t, Im very confident in my opinion that the evolutionists generally use ridicule as their main argument. Not very scientific at all. (If you don’t see it imagine a scientific review employing the word “bizarre” in their writing. It’s personally insulting.)There isn't really anything serious about the idea that a volcano might erupt the entire mass of it's planet. It's actually a very strange thought to be honest.
But alright, I'll put on my serious face and will keep my laughing to myself.
But I should also add that, people really shouldn't peddle such bizarre ideas without actually meaning what they've said. The person Jjim, folded without even talking half a second to defend the statement, which suggests that he isn't actually serious about the subject. Perhaps it isn't actually important to him. Whereas for me, I'm a geologist, so it is actually important that I don't make such bizarre claims.
Since you apparently cannot refrain from jeering even when you promise you won’t, Im very confident in my opinion that the evolutionists generally use ridicule as their main argument. Not very scientific at all. (If you don’t see it imagine a scientific review employing the word “bizarre” in their writing. It’s personally insulting.)
But it’s probably easier to believe evolution if you didn’t study anatomy/physiology/biology. Those of us who do and find the theory lacking in plausiblity. See, that’s a respectful way to question another man’s theory.
- Carbon-14 in coal suggests ages of thousands of years and clearly contradict ages of millions of years.
- Carbon-14 in oil again suggests ages of thousands, not millions, of years.
- Carbon-14 in fossil wood also indicates ages of thousands, not millions, of years.
- Carbon-14 in diamonds suggests ages of thousands, not billions, of years. Note that attempts to explain away carbon-14 in diamonds, coal, etc., such as by neutrons from uranium decay converting nitrogen to C-14 do not work. See: Objections.
Hey, put those goal post back! ;^)As it is impossible to manage sailing or trading based on a mythological view of the world, so it is impossible to use mythological model of Genesis for biology, astronomy, meteorology or paleontology.
Total non sequitur.Therefore some other plausible models must be proposed like the Big Bang Theory or the Theory of Evolution.
No, it's plain old peer pressure that forces Christians to embrace Darwin's 19th century conjecture.But because there is still a need for God as the origin and purpose of all creation and reality, the theistic evolution works for most Christians. Also because we believe that Jesus is the Son of God.
So they can not exist without living things.I have just listened to an interview with a molecular biologist and there was also a question if virus is a living organism.
He says that its something between living organisms and non living things. It needs to get into a cell to reproduce and to begin to "live", but is quite inactive until that.
Actually nothing 'develops'.But if you want an example of mutations on "small levels", then bacterias, that are living organisms, are constantly developing resistance to various antibiotics.
Logical post. I’d have to think about the topic to see if I remember it, but I’ll tell you this, I don’t discern a man’s maturity in christ by how well he presents subjects having nothing to do with the Kingdom of God. I discern maturity by how well a man understands matters of the Kingdom.
To a man, all theistic evolutionists I’ve heard (without exception) and no bias, knew just about nothing of the Kingdom of God. They had experienced a change of heart as to the claims of Christ but one foot is clearly and firmly planted in the world. To maintain their status in the world they trash the character of God which doesn’t bother them at all.
So I didn’t hear Dr Collins talk
about TE. He was supposed to
give a talk on the Bible. It’s actually better for discernment to come at a matter sideways when the guard is down. The question as to whether a man is deceived or not is not to ask him about that which he is deceived but by matters that are clouded BY his being deceived.
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