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Why do you feel a NEED for theistic evolution?

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The Barbarian

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SURE! THESE GUYS ARE A FEW OF MANY PEOPLE WHO CLAIM THAT THE EXISTENCE OF JESUS AND / OR HIS MIRACLES ARE PURELY ALLEGORICAL !

I'd disagree with them. But the important thing to remember is that neiither you nor they will necessarily lose salvation for not agreeing with everything about God. That's not how He will judge you. Look in Matthew 25. He's got a pretty good explanation of what matters. And his comment to the Pharisee; He told them to love God and love their neighbor; everything else depends on that.

JUST LIKE YOU! THEY PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH PARTS OF THE BIBLE THEY BELIEVE AND WHICH ONES THEY DONT..

As you have learned, not everyone interprets it the way you do. Who are you? Be humble enough to realize that you are not God and that any of us can be wrong.

I TOLD YOU THAT YOU WERE GOING TO THOROUGHLY ENJOY THIS CONVERSATION WITH ME!!

I can say that I do enjoy our conversations. You're occasionally bumptious, but I think your heart is in the right place, and you seem to truly believe in God. And that might be all that counts in the end.

I BELIEVE THAT JESUS DID A MIRACLE WITH THE FISH AND THE LOAVES OF BREAD! THESE GUYS ARE CALLING GOD A LIAR!!

Remember, you aren't God. And you don't speak for Him. Keep that in mind, if you will.
 
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"Now THIS is the point where you are supposed to say that you were wrong and you are sorry for trying to pretend you know more about this subject than I do.. But.. It never happens because Evolutionists don't care about the truth".-Jjim Thinnisen

The New Evolution Deniers - Quillette

"Now THIS is the point where you are supposed to say that you were wrong and you are sorry for trying to pretend you know more about the subject than I do.. But.. It never happens because Evolutionists don’t care about the truth." -blitzking 2018

Kinda botlike. That would be a hoot. But with creationists, it's sometimes hard to tell. Nevertheless, it's useful to get this stuff out front and air it out.
 
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Kinda botlike. That would be a hoot. But with creationists, it's sometimes hard to tell. Nevertheless, it's useful to get this stuff out front and air it out.

Yea I suppose. If it draws more science out to inform readers like myself, doesn't hurt to have more details on the topics.
 
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The New Evolution Deniers - Quillette

There's a huge tension between the humanities and the sciences in universities today. The postmodernist notion that reality is whatever we make it to be, is just incompatible with the universe in which we live. Are you familiar with the Sokol hoax? Apparently, more people are doing it, to make a point.

What an Audacious Hoax Reveals About Academia
 
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I'd disagree with them. But the important thing to remember is that neiither you nor they will necessarily lose salvation for not agreeing with everything about God. That's not how He will judge you. Look in Matthew 25. He's got a pretty good explanation of what matters. And his comment to the Pharisee; He told them to love God and love their neighbor; everything else depends on that.



As you have learned, not everyone interprets it the way you do. Who are you? Be humble enough to realize that you are not God and that any of us can be wrong.



I can say that I do enjoy our conversations. You're occasionally bumptious, but I think your heart is in the right place, and you seem to truly believe in God. And that might be all that counts in the end.



Remember, you aren't God. And you don't speak for Him. Keep that in mind, if you will.
Ironic that you should say that someone else isn’t God. Since you make up silly stories about the Nature that God created . In my book that’s blasphemy as you’re insulting God by lying about His Creation which even atheist mainstream scientists are not doing. Since you don’t have to be an atheist to do accurate science, some mainstream scientists are also believers
 
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There's a huge tension between the humanities and the sciences in universities today. The postmodernist notion that reality is whatever we make it to be, is just incompatible with the universe in which we live. Are you familiar with the Sokol hoax? Apparently, more people are doing it, to make a point.

What an Audacious Hoax Reveals About Academia

I'm not familiar with this hoax, what is it?
 
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I'm not familiar with this hoax, what is it?
IIRC I think he deliberately wrote a fake paper with lots of in crowd jargon and got it accepted because the journal just rubber stamped it instead of critiquing it
 
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IIRC I think he deliberately wrote a fake paper with lots of in crowd jargon and got it accepted because the journal just rubber stamped it instead of critiquing it

Just finished reading that Atlantic article. I actually enjoyed that.

I think it might be easier to pull of this hoax in journals of sociology or those related than at least in journals of geology. Just because the descriptive terms could be more broad as opposed to being derived by math or through figures and diagrams. But I would be interested to see a scientific version to see if it could be identified.

But good to know about!
 
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Just finished reading that Atlantic article. I actually enjoyed that.

I think it might be easier to pull of this hoax in journals of sociology or those related than at least in journals of geology. Just because the descriptive terms could be more broad as opposed to being derived by math or through figures and diagrams. But I would be interested to see a scientific version to see if it could be identified.

But good to know about!

Basically, it was as protest against the flabby scholarship of postmodernism. Sokol, being a relatively well-known physicist, likely got his (intentionally nonsense) article into the journal because the editors were happy to have a "real scientist" take part in their ideas.

There's actually a Postmodernism Generator that will crank out examples of this stuff:
The Rational Ape: The Postmodernism Generator
 
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