Why do you feel a NEED for theistic evolution?

[Dorothy Mae]

I responded to what you said, you mentioned Greek myths, I responded about Greek myths.

I mentioned another myth too.

 

[solid_core]

Thise aren’t myths. You just assume they are.
No, there are modern myths too.

I think you do not use the word "myth" properly.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I think you do not use the word "myth" properly.

I’m sure you don’t. And do you know there are other kinds of stories?

 

[solid_core]

I’m sure you don’t. And do you know there are other kinds of stories?

Give me an example of a modern myth you are talking about.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Give me an example of a modern myth you are talking about.

There are plenty on the net concerning how to clue Covid-19. Those not true are called myths. I can find lists of modern myths and they’re called “myths.”

 

[solid_core]

There are plenty on the net concerning how to clue Covid-19. Those not true are called myths. I can find lists of modern myths and they’re called “myths.”

Ok, you do not mean true myths, but just wrong beliefs.

For you, a myth equals simply to "not being true", "fake news".

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

I have no idea what you want to say. What atheists have to do with all this?

Also, how is scientific model a mythology? Mythology, philosophy and science are three distinct areas of human endeavor to discover the universe. They use different tools.

Mythology uses themes like waters, fire, symbolism (like "dust" or "rib" or "breathe") antropomorphisms, zoomorphisms (like Leviathan, dragons) etc. And uses mainly personal experience.
Mythology is looking only for the meaning and how the physical world works is not its point.

Philosophy uses general terms like substance, matter, order, chaos, logos and uses mainly reason as its tool.
Philosophy is looking for both how our world works and for its meaning.

Science uses scientific research, verification, mathematics and experiments.
Science is the lowest area, concentrated only on physical world and on how it works. There is no looking for meaning, spirituality etc.

"Mythology uses themes like waters, fire, symbolism (like "dust" or "rib" or "breathe") antropomorphisms, zoomorphisms (like Leviathan, dragons) etc"

ACTUALLY, Mythology uses words and phrases like "Hopeful Monsters, "Punctuated Equilibrium, "Living Fossils, "Geologic Column, "Abiogenesis, "Big Bang, "Micro plus "deep time" equals Macro Evolution, "Speciation is Macro Evolution, "Red blood cells can last for 100s of millions of years, Etc Etc....

KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever! In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact."

(Dr. Newton Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission.)

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

There are plenty on the net concerning how to clue Covid-19. Those not true are called myths. I can find lists of modern myths and they’re called “myths.”

Evolutionism , "Global Warming", and "Pro Choice" come to mind.... Modern myth ON STEROIDS....

"It must be significant that nearly all the evolutionary stories I learned as a student....have now been debunked."

(Dr. Derek V. Ager, Department of Geology, Imperial College, London)

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"Mythology uses themes like waters, fire, symbolism (like "dust" or "rib" or "breathe") antropomorphisms, zoomorphisms (like Leviathan, dragons) etc"

ACTUALLY, Mythology uses words and phrases like "Hopeful Monsters, "Punctuated Equilibrium, "Living Fossils, "Geologic Column, "Abiogenesis, "Big Bang, "Micro plus "deep time" equals Macro Evolution, "Speciation is Macro Evolution, "Red blood cells can last for 100s of millions of years, Etc Etc....

KNOW WHAT I MEAN?

"Scientists who go about teaching that evolution is a fact of life are great con-men, and the story they are telling may be the greatest hoax ever! In explaining evolution we do not have one iota of fact."

(Dr. Newton Tahmisian, Atomic Energy Commission.)

If one studies the history of modern science, one is forcefully struck by the very unscientific deceit and lies the scientists pursuing that theory allowed themselves. Hoax after hoax were perpetrated upon the public and left unchallenged for decades. Lies upon lies ignoring the scientific method that was rigorously applied to all other fields of science. It is amazing.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

Ok, you do not mean true myths, but just wrong beliefs.

For you, a myth equals simply to "not being true", "fake news".

The people writing about them call them “myths.” No one but you challenges this.

And “true myth” is an oxymoron.

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

If one studies the history of modern science, one is forcefully struck by the very unscientific deceit and lies the scientists pursuing that theory allowed themselves. Hoax after hoax were perpetrated upon the public and left unchallenged for decades. Lies upon lies ignoring the scientific method that was rigorously applied to all other fields of science. It is amazing.

ABSOLUTELY! THE LIST IS LONG AND PAINFUL////

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"For you, a myth equals simply to "not being true","

WRONG... For her a myth equals not being true, BUT MANY PEOPLE FORCE THEMSELVES TO BELIEVE IT ANYWAY DUE TO PHILOSOPHICAL REASONS!!

Kind of like the myth of Evolutionism.. Everyone knows its a rotten lie from hell but they pretend that they can believe it ANYWAY because its IMPLICATIONS happen to align with their worldview.... Get the idea? I hope I was able to help! Best wishes and greetings from California! JT


"A growing number of respectable scientists are defecting from the evolutionist camp.....moreover, for the most part these "experts" have abandoned Darwinism, not on the basis of religious faith or biblical persuasions, but on strictly scientific grounds, and in some instances, regretfully."

(Dr. Wolfgang Smith, physicist and mathematician)

There are men who see the christians jumping on the evolution band wagon as joining them to be “like folks” when the scientific community is abandoning it for its lack of standing up to scientific scrutiny.

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

There are men who see the christians jumping on the evolution band wagon as joining them to be “like folks” when the scientific community is abandoning it for its lack of standing up to scientific scrutiny.

I know.. The irony is incredible.. Incidentally, I have NEVER met an Evolutionist who has been Born Again of the spirit as Christ commanded his followers to do. EVER.. I'm not claiming that they don't exist, just that they are rarer than hens teeth (If they do).. If you don't believe me, try it yourself.. go on any forum where there are Oval-Earthers and ask any one them when did they become Born Again (Become a Christian).. I wager you will NEVER get a response.... See for yourself!! I'm guessing 99% of the Oval-Earthers are simply wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus warned us about....


"Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3

BTW God predicted the MYTH of Evolutionism 2000 years ago in his word through Timothy

"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." 2 Tim

 

[Dorothy Mae]

I know.. The irony is incredible.. Incidentally, I have NEVER met an Evolutionist who has been Born Again of the spirit as Christ commanded his followers to do. EVER.. I'm not claiming that they don't exist, just that they are rarer than hens teeth (If they do).. If you don't believe me, try it yourself.. go on any forum where there are Oval-Earthers and ask any one them when did they become Born Again (Become a Christian).. I wager you will NEVER get a response.... See for yourself!! I'm guessing 99% of the Oval-Earthers are simply wolves in sheep's clothing that Jesus warned us about....


"Flesh is born of flesh, but spirit is born of the Spirit. Do not be amazed that I said, ‘You must be born again.’ John 3

BTW God predicted the MYTH of Evolutionism 2000 years ago in his word through Timothy

"For the time will come when people will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear. 4 They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths." 2 Tim

I’m not sure about them not being believers or born again, but I’ve never met one who wasn’t very immature in their faith. I started to watch a speech by Francis Collins but after 5 minutes turned it off. He was speaking to christians about faith matters and 5 minutes listening told me that he doesn’t know enough to making it worth listening to. The TE crowd I’ve heard know salvation and that’s it. Of course the Calvinists also only know salvation, all the ones I’ve heard.

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

I’m not sure about them not being believers or born again, but I’ve never met one who wasn’t very immature in their faith. I started to watch a speech by Francis Collins but after 5 minutes turned it off. He was speaking to christians about faith matters and 5 minutes listening told me that he doesn’t know enough to making it worth listening to. The TE crowd I’ve heard know salvation and that’s it. Of course the Calvinists also only know salvation, all the ones I’ve heard.

"I’m not sure about them not being believers or born again,"

That is what I used to think as well.. HOWEVER just try it for yourself,,, I'm not asking you to believe me!
Go ahead and ask any and all the Oval-Earthers you can find and ask them a simple question..

When did you became born again?

You will invariably hear crickets..If you find one, let me know so I can revise my posts!! Fair Enough?

Keep in mind one thing.. How can one pretend to be a follower of Christ as God incarnate YET OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH, Claim that Jesus is either a Liar or Stupid concerning Adam and Eve, Creation, AND the worldwide flood of Noah!! It doesn't work does it?!?!....

"Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'

Matthew 19:4​

"As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man".… Matt 24

"Therefore, if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature: old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" 2 Cor.

New Creatures don't call their master an ignorant liar.. Do they?

 

[Job 33:6]

I’m not sure about them not being believers or born again, but I’ve never met one who wasn’t very immature in their faith. I started to watch a speech by Francis Collins but after 5 minutes turned it off. He was speaking to christians about faith matters and 5 minutes listening told me that he doesn’t know enough to making it worth listening to. The TE crowd I’ve heard know salvation and that’s it. Of course the Calvinists also only know salvation, all the ones I’ve heard.

What speech were you listening to?

I think biologos is a great site personally.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

"I’m not sure about them not being believers or born again,"

That is what I used to think as well.. HOWEVER just try it for yourself,,, I'm not asking you to believe me!
Go ahead and ask any and all the Oval-Earthers you can find and ask them a simple question..

When did you became born again?

You will invariably hear crickets..If you find one, let me know so I can revise my posts!! Fair Enough?

Keep in mind one thing.. How can one pretend to be a follower of Christ as God incarnate YET OUT OF THE SAME MOUTH, Claim that Jesus is either a Liar or Stupid concerning Adam and Eve, Creation, AND the worldwide flood of Noah!! It doesn't work does it?!?!....

"Haven't you read," Jesus replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,'

Matthew 19:4​

"As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark. 39And they were oblivious, until the flood came and swept them all away. So will it be at the coming of the Son of Man".… Matt 24

"Therefore, if any man is in Christ, he is a new creature: old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new" 2 Cor.

New Creatures don't call their master an ignorant liar.. Do they?

I don’t disbelieve you on the state of those who compromise on this matter. I’ve never thought about it.

TE supporters ignore parts of the Bible and when it comes to Genesis and use semantics to avoid the obvious God lied problem. Their tactics are like the snake in the garden, “did God say...?” They avoid the problem that Jesus, who was there, taught creation as in God made.

 

[Dorothy Mae]

What speech were you listening to?

I think biologos is a great site personally.

Was biologos or a youtube clip. If you want me to listen to something I can do so and point out the immaturity point.

 

[jJIM THINNSEN]

What speech were you listening to?

I think biologos is a great site personally.

Wow, who could possibly imagine the idea that an Oval-Earther would think that a site that happens to be DEDICATED to Oval-Eartherism is a "great site"? LOL.

BTW..

So just so I can try to understand..According to the fairytale of Evolutionism, over the course of "500 Million Years" While Living in the same exact environment at the same exact time, while SOME comb Jellyfish were evolving into Humans, OTHER comb Jellyfish were evolving into.. comb Jellyfish..("Living Fossils ") And you believe I am being unreasonable for pointing out the silliness of such a rediculois religious belief? Wouldnt a much more PARSIMONIOUS explanation simply be that God created jellyfish that have always been jellyfish and Man that has always been Man? Is there something about believing God's word that is so offensive to the Oval-Earther??

"In the meantime, the educated public continues to believe that Darwin has provided all the relevant answers by the magic formula of random mutations plus natural selection---quite unaware of the fact that random mutations turned out to be irrelevant and natural selection tautology." (Dr. Arthur Koestler)

 

[Job 33:6]

Was biologos or a youtube clip. If you want me to listen to something I can do so and point out the immaturity point.

Sure. If you would like to share, I'd listen.