Why do you believe in the evolution theory?

[Davian]

What sort of punishment do you think you might avoid by being more cautious about how you speak of the God of the Bible, with so many witnesses here present?

Answering a question with a question. Tricky.

I don't know. Is it Burn the Heretic week?

Of course I can, but based on the sort of replies I've got thus far -- I think silence is my best choice.

I couldn't think of any differences either.

 

[AV1611VET]

You do realize that the ACLU defends religious people in cases where their 1st amendment rights have been violated, don't you?

Indeed I do.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Probably. Evil spirits don't die, they just mutate.

Shiva is an evil spirit? I think Wikipedia topples that one: 'He is the supreme god within Shaivism, one of the three most influential denominations in contemporary Hinduism' *

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

So Jesus is an evil spirit because he is still alive?

Jesus is neither spirit, nor evil spirit.

 

[Gracchus]

Actually, belief in Christ carries on because He is alive.

Oh! Has he been filing tax returns? He does have income in this country.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

No more than Satan is. But why pretend you believe in spirits?

Shiva is compared to Satan?

Adi Sankara describes him as '...."The Pure One", or "the One who is not affected by three Gunas of Prakrti (Sattva, Rajas, and Tamas)" or "the One who purifies everyone by the very utterance of His name."




* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva#cite_note-26

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Have you any evidence? If not, it is you who is asking for blind belief.

According to whom? Men?

Again, all you have is claims made by men and backed by zero evidence.

My 2p: I think dad has you well and truly hooked. Not to say, that I didn't see it coming. Enjoy the study, I think you'll find that it's going to take you the rest of your life -- that is if you are serious about 'evidence'. Have fun

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Oh! Has he been filing tax returns? He does have income in this country.

I believe he'll be checking in soon, to collect all outstanding debts. I wonder if existentialism qualifies as a debt paid, or it is just another way of avoiding the obvious question about why Jesus was crucified?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Answering a question with a question. Tricky.

I don't know. Is it Burn the Heretic week?

Heretic? It's pretty hard to get that sort of sword dangling over one's head. Surely not?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Well, first, science isn't to be blindly trusted so they're really no help. Actually, the people who question the existence of the spiritual realm are interacting with it themselves, unbeknownst to them. They aren't aware of what they're doing, how they're being blindly led.

I think you'll find that scientific method is all about helping us to understand many things, things which change the way we think about our beliefs. However science is certainly able to explore the religious experience, but so far has not been able to do so with God. God remains therefore beyond the reach of science. As I said, "Science doesn't have a prayer."

 

[AV1611VET]

Shiva is compared to Satan?

Shoko Asahara in 1995, a worshipper of Shiva, the god of destruction, in his purest form (Aum Shinrikyo), perpetrated the Subway Sarin Incident.

That's what you get when someone wants to worship a god of destruction -- destruction.

 

[Davian]

Heretic? It's pretty hard to get that sort of sword dangling over one's head. Surely not?

What other sort of danger might you be warning me of?

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

Shoko Asahara in 1995, a worshipper of Shiva, the god of destruction, in his purest form (Aum Shinrikyo), perpetrated the Subway Sarin Incident.

That's what you get when someone wants to worship a god of destruction -- destruction.

Using the same logic:
Do you think that the God of the Bible, who is called 'mighty in battle' is the one who sends Christian soldier marching off to war, to main, kill and destroy in his name?

 

[Davian]

I think you'll find that scientific method is all about helping us to understand many things, things which change the way we think about our beliefs. However science is certainly able to explore the religious experience, but so far has not been able to do so with God.

That would depend on how one defines "God".

God remains therefore beyond the reach of science.

Only if you avoid putting that goalpost down.

As I said, "Science doesn't have a prayer."

Catchy, empty, rhetoric. It's not like prayer works.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

What other sort of danger might you be warning me of?

I only had one. So, what makes you think you're a heretic?

 

[Davian]

I only had one.

And what was this 'danger'?

So, what makes you think you're a heretic?

I was under the impression that those that burnt heretics were not concerned with what I thought.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

That would depend on how one defines "God".

A fool's errand, Davian.

Only if you avoid putting that goalpost down.

There aren't any goal posts, when it comes to this. Unless you are talking about Jesus. Are you talking about Jesus?

Catchy, empty, rhetoric. It's not like prayer works.

You have your doubts, I have mine -- but I try not to let them keep me from God. Time to pray now, and then sleep.

Toodaloo.

 

[lewiscalledhimmaster]

And what was this 'danger'?

Don't you remember the little chat you were having with AV about Wonder Woman? It did come across as being a tad on the slanderous side, no? : here

I was under the impression that those that burnt heretics were not concerned with what I thought.

I don't burn heretics. I think they do that without any help from anyone but themselves.

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you think that the God of the Bible, who is called 'mighty in battle' is the one who sends Christian soldier marching off to war, to main, kill and destroy in his name?

At times, yes.

Ecclesiastes 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

 

[Gracchus]

I believe he'll be checking in soon, to collect all outstanding debts.

I suspect he has more to pay than collect. He can collect for one really bad day. But he is, if we are to believe Christians, responsible for billions of hours of human misery and despair. Of course, I don't believe Christians.

I wonder if existentialism qualifies as a debt paid, or it is just another way of avoiding the obvious question about why Jesus was crucified?

As far as I have been able to determine, existentialism is just fuzzy semantics by sloppy thinkers. And also, as far as I can determine from the gospels, Jesus was crucified because he told people what the rich, the powerful and the self-righteous (almost everyone, then and now) didn't want them to hear. Some of it may even have been true.