Why do some people think Apostle Paul is evil?

[hedrick]

But He did with His Gospel of the Kingdom, comparing the self serving ways of man with the all serving ways of God.


As my thgree verses above show, he taught the Gospel of the Kingdom continually,. Something the later gentile church officiators chose to conveniently leave out no doubt as it conflicted with the direction they were going in returning Christianity to the world of man.

None if your quotes are from Paul.

 

[timothyu]

None if your quotes are from Paul.

about Paul.. not good enough?

 

[hedrick]

about Paul.. not good enough?

No. There are significant questions about how well Luke understood Paul.

 

[Guojing]

There are three verses in Acts that state Paul spent most of his time teaching the Gospel of the Kingdom. If the gentiles who built their little worldly empire of an institutionalised religion and church, had included those writings which must have existed, rather than convenient epistles that corresponded with how to built a religion, there might not be any division seen between Paul and Jesus' teachings, both being focused on the Kingdom. The Gentiles were the ones guilty of the separation, not only of the two men but between Gentile and Jew even though we were to be as one.

Acts 19:8 He (Paul) went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the Kingdom of God

Acts 28: 23 And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening. 24 And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.

Acts 28: 30 And Paul dwelt two whole years in his own hired house, and received all that came in unto him, 31 Preaching the kingdom of God, and teaching those things which concern the Lord Jesus Christ, with all confidence, no man forbidding him.

Acts 19:8 He (Paul) went into the synagogue, and spake boldly for the space of three months, disputing and persuading the things concerning the Kingdom of God

Acts 28:23 He expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets

The Gospel of the Kingdom was the offer of the physical return of Jesus if Israel were to repent and be baptized. That was what Peter offered to Israel in Acts 3.

Paul never offered the same physical return of Jesus, so your intepretation of him preaching the Kingdom of God is NOT the same as preaching the gospel of the kingdom.

 

[timothyu]

So again thanks to thousands of years of gentile influence Paul still tops Jesus and Paul's version of what Jesus taught is better than the original?

 

[timothyu]

Paul never offered the same physical return of Jesus, so your intepretation of him preaching the Kingdom of God is NOT the same as preaching the gospel of the kingdom.

So Paul taught a different gospel?

 

[timothyu]

No. There are significant questions about how well Luke understood Paul.

To all or just Paulists?

 

[Guojing]

So Paul taught a different gospel?

the gospel of the kingdom was a valid gospel for the Jews, until acts 15.

Galatians was written after acts 15

 

[timothyu]

he gospel of the kingdom was a valid gospel for the Jews, until acts 15.

So the governance/kingdom of the Father over governance of man became irrelevant?

 

[Guojing]

So the governance/kingdom of the Father over governance of man became irrelevant?

Jesus will rule over the world from Jerusalem eventually, but that gospel of the kingdom has been set aside until the tribulation begins

 

[timothyu]

Jesus will rule over the world from Jerusalem eventually, but that gospel of the kingdom has been set aside until the tribulation begins

Who set it aside and why? The only persons imo who would be happy to see it gone for the duration would be the Adversary and his minions. Him because he will have no part of it and the minions because they are too busy building their own little worldly kingdoms thus going against what Jesus taught..

 

[Radagast]

Jesus will rule over the world from Jerusalem eventually

Jesus will rule over the world from Heaven. Indeed, He is doing so now.

 

[Guojing]

Jesus will rule over the world from Heaven. Indeed, He is doing so now.

Well, when he does rule from Jerusalem, the lion will lay with the lamb, the child will play with serpents, and no one will be hurt. Isaiah 11:6

Surely you can see that is not happening now?

 

[Guojing]

Who set it aside and why? The only persons imo who would be happy to see it gone for the duration would be the Adversary and his minions. Him because he will have no part of it and the minions because they are too busy building their own little worldly kingdoms thus going against what Jesus taught..

Paul explains it well from Romans 9 to Romans 11.

Israel rejected their gospel of the kingdom for the last time with the stoning of Stephen. God has temporaily blinded Israel so that we can be reached with the gospel of grace from the Apostle Paul.

So God was the one who set it aside, it was a plan hidden in him from the foundation of the world (Ephesians 3:9)

 

[timothyu]

God has temporaily blinded Israel so that we can be reached with the gospel of grace from the Apostle Paul.

A different gospel? Isn't that breaking the rules?

 

[Guojing]

A different gospel? Isn't that breaking the rules?

Jesus was explicit that the gospel of the kingdom is not to be preached to Gentiles (Matthew 10:5)

 

[timothyu]

Jesus was explicit that the gospel of the kingdom is not to be preached to Gentiles (Matthew 10:5)

So the gentiles were not to accept or believe that the Father's governance, His kingdom/will over the world, is superior to mankind's so that gentile mankind can feel free to carry in their traditional self serving ways?

 

[Guojing]

So the gentiles were not to accept or believe that the Father's governance, His kingdom/will over the world, is superior to mankind's so that gentile mankind can feel free to carry in their traditional self serving ways?

Ever since Genesis 12 all the way to Paul's salvation, we gentiles were cut off from God, as Paul described in Ephesians 2:11-12

11 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;

12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

 

[timothyu]

Ever since Genesis 12 all the way to Paul's salvation, we gentiles were cut off from God, as Paul described in Ephesians 2:11-12

Don't forget that the other ten tribes of the House of Israel were considered gentile. Jesus said to go to them so they were no longer cut off but the good news that God's will would be done in earth as it was in heaven was sent out to them in all nations. It seems the Roman and greek gentiles were not interested in the will of the Father but ended up creating a religion that focused on themselves and what was in it for them rather than on the Father.

 

[Guojing]

Don't forget that the other ten tribes of the House of Israel were considered gentile. Jesus said to go to them so they were no longer cut off but the good news that God's will would be done in earth as it was in heaven was sent out to them in all nations. It seems the Roman and greek gentiles were not interested in the will of the Father but ended up creating a religion that focused on themselves and what was in it for them rather than on the Father.

God always viewed Israel as a whole.

When Elijiah laid out the 12 stones in his challenge to the prophets of Baal, he was trying to show us that.