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The reason it is irrevocable is that according to the understanding of Scripture that sees apostasy as possible, the one who commits it will never again repent, i.e. return to faith.
How would this apply to Peter, who denied Christ three times?
I'm not sure what the "official" Arminian response would be. Mine would be two-fold:
First, his denial was a lying denial based on fear, not a genuine decision to reject Christ.
Second, at that point he had not yet received the Spirit and been born again. He was not a "believer" in the same sense that we are, or that he himself was later.
Do you believe a person can lose their faith and then regain it in later in life?
Actually, that was part of the argument presented to me . that "most christians acknowledge a 66 book bible"
the statement was most likely in response to that .
But the child had to come back. If he had not, he would still be his child, but living in the muck with the swine. For that matter, Jesus didn't heal anyone who didn't ask him to do it. You had to make an act of faith before you were healed.People do back slide. However, like the parable of the prodigal son, the father welcomed him back because he was his child.
But the child had to come back. If he had not, he would still be his child, but living in the muck with the swine. For that matter, Jesus didn't heal anyone who didn't ask him to do it. You had to make an act of faith before you were healed.
Lazarus wasn't resurrected. He was raised at the request (act of faith) of Mary and Martha. It's kinda obvious that Lazarus was a friend of Jesus already.Where do we see Lazarus' act of faith before he was resurrected by Jesus ?
Lazarus wasn't resurrected. He was raised at the request (act of faith) of Mary and Martha. It's kinda obvious that Lazarus was a friend of Jesus already.
... F. Leroy Forlines or Robert Picirilli, both of whom affirm that the Arminianism developed by the first followers of Arminius taught that apostasy, when it occurs, is irrevocable. The reason it is irrevocable is that according to the understanding of Scripture that sees apostasy as possible, the one who commits it will never again repent, i.e. return to faith.
That'll come as news to millions of Christians in the UK, Germany, and the Low Countries--to find that they're in the "Bible Belt."
Quotes that prove that the Orthodox Church came from the Catholic Church. IF eastern patriarchs acknowledged being Catholic and that the Bishop of Rome was the leader of the Church, then I have made my case.
You may not like it, but....
You are aware that seems to be contradicted by history? There are plenty of examples of apostates being reconciled to the Church. Are you saying their faith was in vain?
You criticize Olson for using Methodists as sources at times, but Forlines is a Free Will Baptist. Methodism is closer to the Dutch Reformed faith of Arminius than it is the to the Baptist faith, so I don't see how that criticism is fair.
I think it's more likely that the authors just misunderstood what Arminius meant by apostasy being "irrevocable", as you put it (he probably meant that it means a person who dies apostate is damned).
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