You are arguing that Jesus rose on the 7th day? Or are you referring to the Feast of Firstfruits as a Sabbath? Or are you trying to suggest that the Sabbath got changed to the 1st day?
Nobody is talking about going back into sin. We all want to live holy. All is being said is that we do not need the 10 commandments written on stone.
So many people get the idea that when we see God's law, God's commands or His ways, that the 10 Commandments are being referenced.
Noah, Abraham and Joseph did not have the 10 Commandments, yet God called Noah righteous, He called Abraham His friend and Joseph knew it was wrong to commit adultery.
We know that they could not have had the 10 Commandments because Paul says in Galatians 3:17 that the law came 430 years later.
Yet, Abraham had something because
Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
What Noah, Abraham and Joseph had is better than the 10 Commandments. God's eternal law.
You are arguing that Jesus rose on the 7th day? Or are you referring to the Feast of Firstfruits as a Sabbath? Or are you trying to suggest that the Sabbath got changed to the 1st day?
There is no command in the Bible to stop keeping God's command to keep the 7th day Sabbath and no command to start setting aside Sunday.
I say that Jesus rose "on the Sabbath" Matthew 28:1 in fulfilment of all the Scriptures, so, therefore, we should obey God's command to keep the Sabbath.
That would be a resounding yes on my part.Should Christians Walk in the God's Ways?
Moses changed the law himself. Divorce was not "law" before Moses.According to Deuteronomy 24:1-4, a woman was not permitted to become remarried to her first husband after she had been divorced and become another man's wife, which means that she was permitted to become another's man's wife while her first husband was still alive.
Not only did Moses allow divorce, which prior was not given, God hated divorce.While I completely agree that we are not under the law, Paul spoke about a number of different types of laws, such as God's Law, the law of sin, and works of law, so it is important to correctly identify which one he was talking about us not being under. The Spirit is not in disagreement with the Father and the Father was not acting against His Spirit when He gave the Law to Moses, so we can easily cross God's Law off the list of possibilities. In Ezekiel 36:26-27, the Spirit has the role of leading us to obey the Law. In Romans 8:4-7, those who walk in the Spirit are contrasted with those who have a mind set on the flesh, who refuse to submit to God's Law. Furthermore, in Galatians 5:19-23, everything listed as works of the flesh that are against the Spirit are also against God's Law, while all of the fruits of the Spirit are in accordance with it, so it would make no sense whatsoever to interpret Galatians 5:18 to be speaking about God's Law. Rather, in Galatians 5:17, Paul described the desires of the flesh as causing us not to do the good that we want to do, which was exactly how Paul described his struggle with the law of sin in Romans 7:13-25, so when we are led by the Spirit we are under God's Law, but not under the law of sin.
Hebrews 7:11-22 New International Version (NIV)Reading Galatians, there is a very strong message that the New Testament believer is under grace, not the law.
Hebrews 7.12 says that the law was changed.
Hebrews 7.19 says that what we now have is better than the law.
Nobody is talking about going back into sin. We all want to live holy. All is being said is that we do not need the 10 commandments written on stone.
So many people get the idea that when we see God's law, God's commands or His ways, that the 10 Commandments are being referenced.
Noah, Abraham and Joseph did not have the 10 Commandments, yet God called Noah righteous, He called Abraham His friend and Joseph knew it was wrong to commit adultery.
We know that they could not have had the 10 Commandments because Paul says in Galatians 3:17 that the law came 430 years later.
Yet, Abraham had something because
Genesis 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
What Noah, Abraham and Joseph had is better than the 10 Commandments. God's eternal law.
Jesus' death and resurrection is the Gospel that has the power to save us.The problem, unfortunately is us, thinking one-dimentionally of God's Law in terms of Ten Commandments engraved in stone and not in vibrant alive experience of Christ Jesus the Power of God to save.
Starting with Moses, they had an understanding of how to obey God's Law, which they passed down to their children and so forth, so it would be almost impossible for us to follow God's commands without following a man-made tradition taught for how to obey those commands. Jesus kept a number of these man-made traditions, so there is nothing inherently wrong with them, but where Jesus had a problem with them was when they were contrary to what God had commanded.
Moses changed the law himself. Divorce was not "law" before Moses.
Mr 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away.
5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept.
6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;
8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh.
9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
The 10 Commandments are a ministry of death and condmenation.
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones,
3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
Now, lest you think I am taking these verses out of context, let's look at some Scriptures in Exodus.
In Chapter 16 the people murmured saying we have no food. Nobody died, God gave them Bread from Heaven.
Later in the chapter Moses tells them that on the 6th day gather twice as much, for there won't be any Bread on the Sabbath. The people go out and look for it anyways.Moses gets mad, but nobody dies.
In Chapter 17, the people complain about the lack of water, God gives them water out of the Rock. Again, nobody dies.
Let's take a look at what happened when the people complained or broke the Sabbath after the giving of the law.n Numbers 11:1-2, the people complain, the LORD is displeased and He sends fire.
After that,the people complain about the lack of meat, saying all they had was Manna.
God said they would eat for a whole month until it came out of there nostrils, but in verse 33, while the meat is still in there mouth, His anger is kindled and many die.
In Numbers 15:32-35 we find a man picking up sticks on the Sabbath, the LORD says to stone him to death.
In Numbers 21, the people murmured again and God sent fiery serpents and thousands died.
Before the law was given in Exodus 20, when the people complained, God gave mercy and grace.
But, the people thought they were righteous.
Exodus 19:8 And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do. And Moses returned the words of the people unto the LORD.
They didn't want mercy, they were proud, so God gave the law to show them how unrighteous they really were.
I feel much the same. But I'm so tired. My country is going to blazes. The inhabitants are all devils. I am sick and tired of political racist murderers and thieves especially, whose culture is their beastliness and civility their noisiness and violence. Come hell for them, please, come quickly!
We need a few who are proud that they keep God's Laws; maybe that will help a bit.
I thought this thread was speaking about all things law? The fact remains, the law was changed in the Sinai covenant, to allow for divorce which was not so prior to Sinai. Especially that that particular law was given because of their hardness of heart. Just shows law was not given for the righteous but for the unrighteous.We had been talking about the issue of REMARRIAGE while the spouse is still living.
I thought this thread was speaking about all things law? The fact remains, the law was changed in the Sinai covenant, to allow for divorce which was not so prior to Sinai. Especially that that particular law was given because of their hardness of heart. Just shows law was not given for the righteous but for the unrighteous.
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
Which gives some context to these commands.
Lev 17:3 What man soever there be of the house of Israel, that killeth an ox, or lamb, or goat, in the camp, or that killeth it out of the camp,
4 And bringeth it not unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, to offer an offering unto the LORD before the tabernacle of the LORD; blood shall be imputed unto that man; he hath shed blood; and that man shall be cut off from among his people:
5 To the end that the children of Israel may bring their sacrifices, which they offer in the open field, even that they may bring them unto the LORD, unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, unto the priest, and offer them for peace offerings unto the LORD.
6 And the priest shall sprinkle the blood upon the altar of the LORD at the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and burn the fat for a sweet savour unto the LORD.
7 And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.
Ga 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
I'm sorry, but where did Jesus allow for divorce for "any reason" as was in the Old Covenant. He only allowed it for sexual infidelity. But no where are the divorced given license to remarry after divorce. We just assume that, but it is not written. What is written is that if a divorced person remarries, they are committing adultery if the spouse is still living.
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