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Why do creationists insist that the theory of evolution is inherently atheistic?

MrsLurking

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Where's this fabled ignore button? How do I find it?

Click on the USER CP at the upper left and then the OPTION (or something like SETUP OPTIONS). You type in the names you wish to ignore.

By the way, I think I confused your name with that of another inquirer of my husband, VerySincere. But the information I posted on my husband's farewell thread will interest you. The Gordon Glover instruction videos are worth watching on Youtube.
 
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Ok thank you! :) I knew it sounded kinda familiar, but it's a new feature to me.

There used to be an IGNORE button somewhere, but I don't know what happened to it.
 
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MrsLurking said:
Click on the USER CP at the upper left and then the OPTION (or something like SETUP OPTIONS). You type in the names you wish to ignore.

By the way, I think I confused your name with that of another inquirer of my husband, VerySincere. But the information I posted on my husband's farewell thread will interest you. The Gordon Glover instruction videos are worth watching on Youtube.

Yes, I checked back and it appears you've confused me for another post-er. That's fine, as I'll look into those videos sometime, maybe tomorrow.
 
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That reminds me. There's another excellent reason for an INGORE LIST.

Bingo. We have a winner. Good bye.

LOL -- I went IGNORE-crazy once and put about ten people on my IGNORE list.

About a week later I removed every one of them.

I currently have no one on my list.
 
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AV1611VET said:
LOL -- I went IGNORE-crazy once and put about ten people on my IGNORE list.

About a week later I removed every one of them.

I currently have no one on my list.

^_^ it gets lonely soon, doesn't it? Though I can imagine ignoring certain people, for good reason (for both parties)
 
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James S Allan, genetics (In Six Days)

For all you evolutionist out there who want some legitimate knowledge explaining why evolutionism contradicts the bible and renders it atheistic. Dr. James Allan is a former senior lecturer in genetics at the University of Stellenbosch in South Africa. He holds a B.S. in agriculture from the University of Natal, an M.S. in agriculture from the University of Stellenbosch and a Ph.D. in genetics from the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. He converted from evolution to young earth creationism for not just any reason. Obviously he gives decent insight from a scientist's perspective. He uses scientific evidence alongside Scriptural evidence to bring home a good point.
 
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No, I mean the "Biblical Schoalars" who continuously say that the Bible doesn't say what it clearly states; that the evening andf the morning could be thousands of years, that the flood was only a local flood, and that evolution is affirmed through the Bible. I could name a few names, but these people know who they are. They call themselves "Theistic evolutionists" because they want to hang with the "in" crowd but they still want to go to Heaven when they die. Professing to believe in the "truth" of the Bible and "facts" of evolution, they understand neither.

Anytime one of you guys says "what the bible clearly states," it just emphasizes how little you guys understand your own holy books. The bible doesn't "clearly" state anything. That is why there are so many denominations of Christianity. Its especially telling when you are referring to a non-Hebrew translation, like the KJV. Nothing is "clearly" translated from old Hebrew or Greek to English. This is how the KJV Only movement gets it so very wrong.
 
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The bible doesn't "clearly" state anything. That is why there are so many denominations of Christianity.

Truer words were never spoken.

My math books are clear. My physics books are clear. My programming books are clear. My economics books are clear (if an incomplete field). My sheet music is clear. My non-fiction books are clear. My fiction books are clear.

The bible? No.
 
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James S Allan, genetics (In Six Days)

For all you evolutionist out there who want some legitimate knowledge explaining why evolutionism contradicts the bible and renders it atheistic. Dr. James Allan is a former senior lecturer in genetics at the University of Stellenbosch in South Africa. He holds a B.S. in agriculture from the University of Natal, an M.S. in agriculture from the University of Stellenbosch and a Ph.D. in genetics from the University of Edinburgh, Scotland. He converted from evolution to young earth creationism for not just any reason. Obviously he gives decent insight from a scientist's perspective. He uses scientific evidence alongside Scriptural evidence to bring home a good point.

Amazing. His entire argument really comes down to this:

It is also clear to me that if one wishes to believe in the theory of evolution, a great deal of Scripture, including Jesus’ own spoken word (Matt.19:4, 25:34; Mark 13:19; John 5:46–47), has to be discounted. So, whom must we believe, God or man? I believe that God gives us the answer when He says, “Stop trusting in man, who has but a breath in his nostrils. Of what account is he?”

That is hardly a scientific argument. Strangely enough, he actually gives a pretty good account of the genetic evidence supporting the theory of evolution. Despite how impressive he himself indicates it is, it was his theology that resulted in rejecting it, not any problems with the theory. Sure, he mentions "genetic deaths," needed for human chimp divergence, but says it is covered by millions of years of evolution. So where is the problem?
 
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Truer words were never spoken.

My math books are clear. My physics books are clear. My programming books are clear. My economics books are clear (if an incomplete field). My sheet music is clear. My non-fiction books are clear. My fiction books are clear.

The bible? No.
Well this is a book that has been by various author with difference context and time periods that has been translated that some of it's meaning has been lost.
You think the paid bible commentators will educated the reader about those things. Though I havn't seen any bibles that try to do that.
 
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