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Yes God can use even ungodly men to accomplish His purpose... the OT is full of examples.And yet the only example of the Bible, preserved as a library of sacred literature, is by the Christian Church. The same Christian Church being regularly accused as false, "denominations", worthless, etc.
God can do many things. What God can do, is a very different thing than what God will do or has done.
-CryptoLutheran
That doesn't work, Papa. In the Bible, God is granted a deep emotional life, and so his emotional states are seen as continually changing. For example, his feelings about creation certainly underwent a drastic change, Gen. 6:6. His feelings about Israel certainly changed. Christ is God, and Christ obviously experienced changing emotional states, going from pleasure to displeasure, etc. Emotions are part of oneself, so when they change, yes, you change. So, putting al the pieces together form Scripture, God appears to be a living personality and therefore a synthesis of consistency and change.
But he said he went to school and everything to be an authority for us...Fixating on what a "fact" is by one definition or another, only speaks of the truth, if one is fixed on the truth in the first place...which of course, one cannot even begin to do without knowing the beginning and the end. Your little patch of road, does not tell all, nor does it speak with the authority that you attribute to yourself. You should be asking questions - not making claims.
We could also understand the authors Character of Love and filter everything through it.... for the greatest of these is charity (love)The way I see it, it's not the Bible that can't be trusted. We can't trust ourselves. We all too often get in the way. Ask someone if baptism is required for salvation and you get several different answers. If the Bible were so clear, this shouldn't happen. But the truth is, we all bring a bit of bias and background into our understanding of the Biblical text. It's not important what "I" think the Bible is saying nor is it important what my pastor says. What did the original author intend for his audience to understand? That's the key question. And in order to fully understand the answer to that question, one has to look beyond the biblical text. I'm talking about understanding the times in which the text was written; its idioms and how words interpreted ideas. A lot of background information is often needed to wrestle out the truth of what is conveyed in the Bible. I am not a biblical literalist. I want to take the Bible accurately. And that often requires some deep study work. Agree?
So you agree that evolution is as much a religion of faith as Christianity then? Which, being the case, makes one an idol. You can't serve two masters...No, that really isn't accurate, Geralt. Evolution became a central scientific understanding because the hard evidence demolished the natural theology that was in vogue at the time. It is true that science has a very limited window into the past. So some degree of speculation is always caller for. Therefore , science doesn't deal in absolute truths. It deals in probabilities of being right. The same is also true of right-wing Christian beliefs. If nobody was around to directly observe the Big Bang, nobody was around to see God create the world in six days, either. The trouble with creation-science re people is that they refuse to acknowledge they also are going on speculation, not absolute truth based on absolute proof.
What an utterly blasphemous statement... "because I am, therefore God is also".. brother, you better have a good heart to heart with the Spirit for that.Yes, that is a good definition of Change, Papa. However, I have pointed out biblical passages where God's emotions change from what they were to another kind of emotion. Didn't I provide you an example from Malachi 3:5-7? Yes, God does persist in a fixity of purpose, and this is precisely why God changes. For example, God always seeks to maximize beauty. But what may be an appropriate kind of beauty in one situation may not be in another. God is always loving and enjoys an direct empathic response to any and all creaturely feeling. But God's feelings change as do those of the creatures. Think of yourself, for a moment. In my case, I have been a lifelong train buff and am immutable in that respect. But now that I have a real steam locomotive to operate, I have changed and am a very different train buff than I was twenty years ago. The same holds for God. God is a living personality, and a living personality is a synthesis of consistency and change.
As I stated in a previous post, the position of this theory is ever changing...how convenient to drop aspects of the original theory which can easily be debunked... instead, just stick with examples of speciation, which is nothing special, and infer something greater by it... a very slick smoke and mirrors show.The theory of evolution says nothing about abiogenesis.
In the Christian mystical tradition, evolution calls from Christ. That ios also true in the writings of Pere Teilhard de Chardin, a Jesuit and major 20-the century thinker.
Please, explain it to me. Make a fleshy show of mans wisdom. Its really nothing more than that. You lack discernment as far as God is concerned, you deny his existence because that is foolishness to you, and you would rather glory in fleshy wisdom. Sure, it makes you sound wise, but in the end the bible has another word for those who deny Gods existence. The worst part is that you come to a Christian website, and argue all day, wasting your life in a meaningless debate, although you believe this life is all there is. Such a waste. I'll give you your moment of glory. Please answer your question and educate this layman.
I earned by doctorate through the university's Department of Religion and Jewish Studies.
Nice of you to be so dismissive of my life and what I've witnessed....I don't think the problem Is that they heard about evolution. The issue is either.....the girls interpreted being told they came from Apes in meaning God didn't create them. Or the teacher said no God exists, which isn't allowed. However in places that accept evolution and are run by Christians, your not going to get talk that says God didn't make us because of evolution. Even in my secular college in an anthropology class, the point was made that evolution is not anti-religion by my teacher because there are many religious that accept it.
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