Why do Christians have trouble with accepting Evolution?

[Extraneous]

I'm sorry if it contradicts what you think you know about science, but science doesn't prove anything. Including chemistry.

Im sure many people sitting on death row wished that the Judge had your understanding. All that forensic science proves nothing. Inadmissible.

 

[Extraneous]

The irony, Creationists are the ones standing up for scientific evidence.

 

[Hieronymus]

But what you proposed goes beyond what Scripture tells us. Essentially you are saying that there is no conflict assuming that certain things that are not described in Scripture happened. If that is how you rectify the conflict for yourself that is fine; I see it S a stretch.

I see a Garden.

 

[Armoured]

Im sure many people sitting on death row wished that the Judge had your understanding. All that forensic science proves nothing. Inadmissible.

Scientific burden of proof and legal burden of proof are different concepts. Don't conflate them.

And while science never "proves" anything, that's not the same as saying it doesn't provide truly massive amounts of evidence for something.

 

[Armoured]

The irony, Creationists are the ones standing up for scientific evidence.

Baloney.

 

[Hieronymus]

Baloney.

Denial...

 

[Armoured]

Denial...

Show me evidence supporting the claim?

 

[Hieronymus]

Show me evidence supporting the claim?

You'll have to look to see.

 

[Armoured]

You'll have to look to see.

Well I can't look if it's not presented, can I?

 

[Extraneous]

Baloney.

Science doesn't prove anything according to you, so science is baloney then, according to you. You are just moving the goalpost around with that definition.

 

[Neostarwcc]

Why do I have a hard time accepting the idea of evolution? Because, there isn't sufficient enough proof in modern science for evolution to exist.

One large strike for me personally with the theory of evolution is that for decades we thought that man evolved from primates through the course of millions of years. We've thought for a long, long time that we were evolved from monkeys but, turns out we weren't. It has now been completely proven wrong in modern science. So, if that's not to be believed and bogus, what did we evolve from? Oh, that's right, nothing because evolution doesn't exist.

Humans and modern life were created by God about 6,000 years ago and while, we might have changed a little bit in appearance since then, all animals and humans look pretty much the same as we did 6,000 years ago. I don't believe that we are millions of years old.

Now, on the idea of Dinosaurs I have no idea. I don't believe that they're hundreds of millions of years old but, I have no idea whether they existed or not. It doesn't matter to me personally, dinosaurs are and were cool and It's cool to imagine Dinosaurs walking this planet at one point. It's cool to imagine velociraptor attacks (Who were my favorite dinosaurs as a kid) Whether or not they literally walked the earth is, irrelevant to me. And whether they were wiped by a volcano or by a comet both, are noah's ark like God made national disasters so I can buy the theory that God scrapped them and decided to make humans instead. But, in the long run It's just... kind of irrelevant to me. It's also cool to read Greek and Roman Mythology. That doesn't make Greek and Roman Mythology real. In fact, it isn't and was a very entertaining thought and concept 2,000 years ago.

 

[Armoured]

Why do I have a hard time accepting the idea of evolution? Because, there isn't sufficient enough proof in modern science for evolution to exist.

One large strike for me personally with the theory of evolution is that for decades we thought that man evolved from primates through the course of millions of years. We've thought for a long, long time that we were evolved from monkeys but, turns out we weren't. It has now been completely proven wrong in modern science. So, if that's not to be believed and bogus, what did we evolve from? Oh, that's right, nothing because evolution doesn't exist.

Um, no, neither evolution nor "science" ever thought that humans evolved from moneys. Perhaps if you'd try to find out what evolutionary theory actually says, as opposed to some strawman cobbled together nonsense version?

Humans and modern life were created by God about 6,000 years ago and while, we might have changed a little bit in appearance since then, all animals and humans look pretty much the same as we did 6,000 years ago. I don't believe that we are millions of years old.

Great. So explain the fact that all species today make's up about 0.5% of all life forms? The other several billion different species all went extinct some time after 6000 years ago, but before recorded history began??

Now, on the idea of Dinosaurs I have no idea. I don't believe that they're hundreds of millions of years old but, I have no idea whether they existed or not. It doesn't matter to me personally, dinosaurs are and were cool and It's cool to imagine Dinosaurs walking this planet at one point. It's cool to imagine velociraptor attacks (Who were my favorite dinosaurs as a kid) Whether or not they literally walked the earth is, irrelevant to me. And whether they were wiped by a volcano or by a comet both, are noah's ark like God made national disasters so I can buy the theory that God scrapped them and decided to make humans instead. But, in the long run It's just... kind of irrelevant to me. It's also cool to read Greek and Roman Mythology. That doesn't make Greek and Roman Mythology real. In fact, it isn't and was a very entertaining thought and concept 2,000 years ago.

So what are all the dinosaur fossils?

 

[throughfiierytrial]

I think i know some key ideas. Its because it undermines the creation story and that people will become irreligious?

Well wouldnt that be an issue about the idea of the earth is flat if the bible is literal on that part i mean?

What i mean is that science explains our physicial world. The main point i am making is that Creation Story had two interpretations in medieval ages. Allegory" basically a deeper meaning than it is. Or "Literally" like just like it is written.

So basically allegory seems to be the key point then. Since that can be used. Since God is outside our understanding. Science is a method just to understand the world we live in more or less.

So i dont see the problem with evolution, because it doesnt undermine the scripture in the sense of it not being true?

Although i do believe its a shame that more people who lack understanding go away because of ignorance and just dont bother trying to understand why Christianity is a religion to help your life.

But i am curious to what you think?

It is a direct contradiction of Scripture which holds that God created the universe in 6 days and this includes mankind. To believe evolution then says God lies to us. It takes away from God's glory.

Psalm 104

Psalm 33:6-9:
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made,
their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
he puts the deep into storehouses.
Let all the earth fear the Lord;
let all the people of the world revere him.
For he spoke, and it came to be;
he commanded, and it stood firm.

Hebrews 11:3:
By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
This doctrine of creation touches upon faith. Many go astray, many doubt, many become atheist over the loss of this doctrine. You may say we can have God and evolution, but it isn't proving so either...we have a sinful nature and evolution in its usual form teaches no accountability. Throwing fuel on the fire then.

 

[Armoured]

It is a direct contradiction of Scripture which holds that God created the universe in 6 days and this includes mankind. To believe evolution then says God lies to us. It takes away from God's glory.

Psalm 104

Psalm 33:6-9:
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made,
their starry host by the breath of his mouth.
He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;
he puts the deep into storehouses.
Let all the earth fear the Lord;
let all the people of the world revere him.
For he spoke, and it came to be;
he commanded, and it stood firm.

Hebrews 11:3:
By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God’s command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible.
This doctrine of creation touches upon faith. Many go astray, many doubt, many become atheist over the loss of this doctrine. You may say we can have God and evolution, but it isn't proving so either...we have a sinful nature and evolution in its usual form teaches no accountability. Throwing fuel on the fire then.

You're quoting a passage that says "He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;" in SUPPORT of Biblical literalism??

Tell me, is Jesus literally a baby sheep?

 

[Archivist]

Why do I have a hard time accepting the idea of evolution? Because, there isn't sufficient enough proof in modern science for evolution to exist.

One large strike for me personally with the theory of evolution is that for decades we thought that man evolved from primates through the course of millions of years. We've thought for a long, long time that we were evolved from monkeys but, turns out we weren't. It has now been completely proven wrong in modern science. So, if that's not to be believed and bogus, what did we evolve from? Oh, that's right, nothing because evolution doesn't exist.

Humans and modern life were created by God about 6,000 years ago and while, we might have changed a little bit in appearance since then, all animals and humans look pretty much the same as we did 6,000 years ago. I don't believe that we are millions of years old.

Now, on the idea of Dinosaurs I have no idea. I don't believe that they're hundreds of millions of years old but, I have no idea whether they existed or not. It doesn't matter to me personally, dinosaurs are and were cool and It's cool to imagine Dinosaurs walking this planet at one point. It's cool to imagine velociraptor attacks (Who were my favorite dinosaurs as a kid) Whether or not they literally walked the earth is, irrelevant to me. And whether they were wiped by a volcano or by a comet both, are noah's ark like God made national disasters so I can buy the theory that God scrapped them and decided to make humans instead. But, in the long run It's just... kind of irrelevant to me. It's also cool to read Greek and Roman Mythology. That doesn't make Greek and Roman Mythology real. In fact, it isn't and was a very entertaining thought and concept 2,000 years ago.

You either were not paying attention in science class or you had a very poor science teacher. Evolution nevber claimed that man evolved from monkeys.

This is from Darwin's The Descent of Man, and Selection in Relation to Sex (London, 1871, p. 197):

"If the anthropomorphous apes be admitted to form a natural sub-group... we may infer that some ancient member of the anthropomorphous sub-group gave birth to man." (Emphasis added)

Note that Darwin is saying that man and apes share a common ancestor, not that man evolved from monkeys.

 

[KWCrazy]

The Bible is not a book of science. My faith comes from the Bible. My understanding of science comes from other sources.

The Bible chronicles 333 miracles, none of which could happen according to science. Which of these do you believe? By what evidence do you decide what to accept and what to reject? Jesus said you cannot serve two masters. Where the Bible and science disagree you must choose to believe on over the other. How do you make that choice?

Are you saying that a Christuan cannot believe in evolution?

Christian means "of Christ. What did Christ teach? That Cain and Able were real (Luke 11:51)? That the Great Flood happened (Matthew 24: 37-39)? That God created Adam and Eve (Matthew 19:4)? I have pointed out that Jesus affirmed the Scriptures as the inspired word of God, not the musings of bronze age goat herders. So let me ask you. Can a person reject much of what Christ taught and still be a disciple of Christ? Can one refer to the Bible as "God's Word" and then summarily reject most of what is written? Can a person believe that God man in His own image on the sixth day of creation while believing that Adam and Eve both had parents and simply evolved over billions of years? Can a man believe both truth and a lie?

Jesus never said that all who were deceived by the lies of man would be lost. Faith is the one requirement to Heaven. Ask yourself how strong your faith is if you disbelieve most of the Scriptures. Ultimately, that's between you and the Creator.

 

[KWCrazy]

Gravity is also a theory.

Gravity is a testable force. If we drop a rock, we will see gravity.
Even by radiating fruit flies for decades, we have NEVER seen evolution. We have only seen traits extinguished.

 

[Armoured]

Gravity is a testable force. If we drop a rock, we will see gravity.
Even by radiating fruit flies for decades, we have NEVER seen evolution. We have only seen traits extinguished.

We've seen evolution multiple times. You can test it yourself with any imperfect replicator.

 

[Archivist]

The Bible chronicles 333 miracles, none of which could happen according to science. Which of these do you believe? By what evidence do you decide what to accept and what to reject? Jesus said you cannot serve two masters. Where the Bible and science disagree you must choose to believe on over the other. How do you make that choice?

Christian means "of Christ. What did Christ teach? That Cain and Able were real (Luke 11:51)? That the Great Flood happened (Matthew 24: 37-39)? That God created Adam and Eve (Matthew 19:4)? I have pointed out that Jesus affirmed the Scriptures as the inspired word of God, not the musings of bronze age goat herders. So let me ask you. Can a person reject much of what Christ taught and still be a disciple of Christ? Can one refer to the Bible as "God's Word" and then summarily reject most of what is written? Can a person believe that God man in His own image on the sixth day of creation while believing that Adam and Eve both had parents and simply evolved over billions of years? Can a man believe both truth and a lie?

Jesus never said that all who were deceived by the lies of man would be lost. Faith is the one requirement to Heaven. Ask yourself how strong your faith is if you disbelieve most of the Scriptures. Ultimately, that's between you and the Creator.

You speak of rejecting "much of what Christ taught." Yet Jesus spent relatively little time teaching about the Garden or the Flood or Cain. When He did so it was in terms of making His message understandable to His listeners, all of whom believed that those things actually existed. Do I deny the miracles performed by Jesus? Of course not. Do I believe in a literal Garden of Eden? No. Do I see any conflict there? No, of course not.

Now, once again, are you saying that a Christian cannot believe in evolution?

 

[throughfiierytrial]

You're quoting a passage that says "He gathers the waters of the sea into jars;" in SUPPORT of Biblical literalism??

Tell me, is Jesus literally a baby sheep?

Get serious! and that is a derogatory remark toward Jesus just so you can have a laugh. Notice you skipped over all the literalism quoted. These passages all point to faith...down through the ages...OT to NT times. In many respects we as a people are growing more ignorant not more knowledgeable over time. Time has darkened our knowledge of God which is true ignorance.