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Why do Christians hate the theory of evolution?

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That is no fact. How do you know there is no evidence for evolution? How did it even come to be a scientific theory if there is simply no evidence to support it?

Please explain.

I have covered quite nicely the topic of how it came to be.

-the fool said in his heart ."there is no God"

and then needed to explain how we all got here..so he came up with a theory
 
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I have covered quite nicely the topic of how it came to be.

-the fool said in his heart ."there is no God"

and then needed to explain how we all got here..so he came up with a theory

That really does not make sense itself. Because the theory of evolution did not come to exist because people were trying to deny God in the process of creation. It exists because people wonder how certain things in the world work naturally (you can want to learn, study, and accept how certain things in the world develop naturally speaking without ignoring the existence of God). And science does not delve into the realm of the supernatural, but that doesn't mean that learning about science, accepting scientific theories (including evolution), means that you are doing it because you denying the existence of the supernatural/spiritual/God

In fact if you know your history, some people in the earliest days of the ToE, who were learning/studying about it, were actually Theists (and that has been the case in present day as well). Darwin himself believed that there was a God behind the world, even evolution, when he wrote "The Origins of Species", though I believe he became more agnostic later on because he had a hard time accepting God with all the suffering he saw in nature.
 
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That really does not make sense itself. Because the theory of evolution did not come to exist because people were trying to deny God in the process of creation. It exists because people wonder how certain things in the world work naturally (you can want to learn, study, and accept how certain things in the world develop naturally speaking without ignoring the existence of God). And science does not delve into the realm of the supernatural, but that doesn't mean that learning about science, accepting scientific theories (including evolution), means that you are doing it because you denying the existence of the supernatural/spiritual/God

In fact if you know your history, some people in the earliest days of the ToE, who were learning/studying about it, were actually Theists (and that has been the case in present day as well). Darwin himself believed that there was a God behind the world, even evolution, when he wrote "The Origins of Species", though I believe he became more agnostic later on because he had a hard time accepting God with all the suffering he saw in nature.

Now you see, we are defending our God, you are defending a man, who's side do you think God is on here?

Of course you must either say He is staying out of it or he is on your side, because to say He is with Micheal and me is to say you are fighting against God.

All so you can say a man is right not God. Now who do you show to be in your heart?

Fact they never have found anything in the process of evolution. fact they never found the so called missing link. Fact the missing link they called lucy they later recanted and said it was a chimp. In fact there is not one piece of evidence. The question why are things not evolving today they say oh it happens over billions of years. So not only to you have to throw out that God said he formed man from dust, but also that the earth was created in 6 days. You have to in fact throw out all of creation by the Bible.
Fact is God gives account of the bloodline from Adam to Jesus, right down to the years they lived, and we can trace from Jesus to present day. Not more than 25 thousand years give or take. So you must reject that. So you see how this theory is an attempt to dismantle the Bible piece by piece.

And you defend this theory of men, You will answer for it, you better repent.

And wasn't it you which said the Bible has mistakes in it, did you not agree with that. Well then you get well you can not trust the Bible. If we can not believe some of the Bible we certainly can not believe Jesus arose from the dead and that He is God in the flesh. So now you are left with an atheist, or agnostic. Everyone one who holds those views knows there is God in there heart they just don't want to follow Him. They want to do what they want.

I'll tell you want God says is coming for these people. He says sense they deceive others and follow false doctrines he will allow them to be deceived by anti christ and they will follow him to death.

Just took a test on this tonight one of the signs of the end times is false doctrines being spread throughout the world.

Evolution is just that false doctrine. You need to wake up, narrow is the path to Heaven and broad the way to death.
 
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That really does not make sense itself. Because the theory of evolution did not come to exist because people were trying to deny God in the process of creation. It exists because people wonder how certain things in the world work naturally (you can want to learn, study, and accept how certain things in the world develop naturally speaking without ignoring the existence of God). And science does not delve into the realm of the supernatural, but that doesn't mean that learning about science, accepting scientific theories (including evolution), means that you are doing it because you denying the existence of the supernatural/spiritual/God

In fact if you know your history, some people in the earliest days of the ToE, who were learning/studying about it, were actually Theists (and that has been the case in present day as well). Darwin himself believed that there was a God behind the world, even evolution, when he wrote "The Origins of Species", though I believe he became more agnostic later on because he had a hard time accepting God with all the suffering he saw in nature.

but you have based that upon an intellectual assumption

I'm basing it on the truth that the antichrsit is already in the world at work in the hearts of the children of disobedience ..

there is no neutral ground here .

just as the children of God born again by the spirit of God are inspired by the Spirit of God to good works ..
just so .. those who walk in disobedience (to BELIEVE is the command ..to obey proves one truly believes) are inspired by the spirit of antichrist to all manner of wickedness .. and doctrines of Devils .. the theory of evolution is nothing more then a doctrine of devils, for at its core, it seeks to deny that GOD IS .
 
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Now you see, we are defending our God, you are defending a man, who's side do you think God is on here?

Of course you must either say He is staying out of it or he is on your side, because to say He is with Micheal and me is to say you are fighting against God.

All so you can say a man is right not God. Now who do you show to be in your heart?

Fact they never have found anything in the process of evolution. fact they never found the so called missing link. Fact the missing link they called lucy they later recanted and said it was a chimp. In fact there is not one piece of evidence. The question why are things not evolving today they say oh it happens over billions of years. So not only to you have to throw out that God said he formed man from dust, but also that the earth was created in 6 days. You have to in fact throw out all of creation by the Bible.
Fact is God gives account of the bloodline from Adam to Jesus, right down to the years they lived, and we can trace from Jesus to present day. Not more than 25 thousand years give or take. So you must reject that. So you see how this theory is an attempt to dismantle the Bible piece by piece.

And you defend this theory of men, You will answer for it, you better repent.

And wasn't it you which said the Bible has mistakes in it, did you not agree with that. Well then you get well you can not trust the Bible. If we can not believe some of the Bible we certainly can not believe Jesus arose from the dead and that He is God in the flesh. So now you are left with an atheist, or agnostic. Everyone one who holds those views knows there is God in there heart they just don't want to follow Him. They want to do what they want.

I'll tell you want God says is coming for these people. He says sense they deceive others and follow false doctrines he will allow them to be deceived by anti christ and they will follow him to death.

Just took a test on this tonight one of the signs of the end times is false doctrines being spread throughout the world.

Evolution is just that false doctrine. You need to wake up, narrow is the path to Heaven and broad the way to death.

No evidence? There is a reason why the theory of evolution still exists in science, and still is taught in school, and still studied today. Because there IS evidence. That is how a theory in science works. If it was flawed, it would have been replaced by now. But it stood the test of time.
 
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im convinced mans dating system is flawed .

for instance carbon dating is based on something they know without doubt to be a certain age ...
(im not sure what that age is but i think itgs not more then 2000 years old . so using that as the template they then measure that something else is 80million years old .??
unless they can place beside it an object known to actually be 80,million years old with which to compare it -thier measurement is purley conjecture and not fact ... they know this but are seldom honest about it .

the dating system is accurate ,up to an approximation of 2000-3000 years .. beyond that they have absolutely no provable benchmark to base it on . they "streeetch" the age to fit their belief system rather then be honest and change what they believe .. because if they admit that the aging measurement they use is flawed .. they have to consider the bible true .

Jesus made five loaves and a few fish ... instantaneously create from nothing as he took them from the basket to feed five thousand ...

how is this different from creating the earth the same way .. the theory of 80millionyear old theistic evolution is based ...beneath all the hype and fancy words .. on doubt - which is unbelief .
wil the same "Christian " say amen when we quote ..-"with God ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE "and then with the same breath deny it ?

when the bible seems to contradict itself .that is a sign that we lack comprehension of it

As a Christian, you should know to understand something before judging it.

If you understood dating methods, you would know that carbon dating is not used for fossils over ~40 000 years old, as it is not accurate in identifying age past that. Carbon dating does give wonky answers for things that are older than ~40 000 years, but that does not mean its flawed; That would be like putting an elephant on a bathroom scale, and saying that the scale is flawed for giving a wonky reading.


There are other methods that are used for older ages which are very accurate (for example Uranium-lead dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), if you are willing to understand, before you judge a whole branch of science.
 
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No evidence? There is a reason why the theory of evolution still exists in science, and still is taught in school, and still studied today. Because there IS evidence. That is how a theory in science works. If it was flawed, it would have been replaced by now. But it stood the test of time.

well in case you did not notice this is the Baptist section we worship God here not men, go bow down to your false god some where else.

test of time little over hundred years the theory has been out there, that is you test of time.

Schools in greece taught Zeus was the head of the Gods now we call it mythology, schools through out history have taught things that later people look back at and say that was ridiculous. The Bible has stood the test of time.
 
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No evidence? There is a reason why the theory of evolution still exists in science, and still is taught in school, and still studied today. Because there IS evidence. That is how a theory in science works. If it was flawed, it would have been replaced by now. But it stood the test of time.

There are flaws in the theory of evolution. The consensus now is that Darwinian or "gradual" evolution cannot sufficiently explain the changes in species. Scientists have developed new theories over the years regarding evolution to fill in the "flaws" of gradual evolution. "Punctuated equilibrium" is one such example.

Evolution has been in a constant flux because when they find one road block, they have to work out a way to theorize around it. This is how science is supposed to work; trying to disprove theorizes is essential to discovering the truth in science. There are some facts in evolutionary science but the extreme end of evolution is in constant change; one theory comes another theory goes.

Also, It sounds like you trust the academic system to clean up its dirty work and that if theories were flawed, that they would be discarded. This is not always the case, though. You see pure science is never practiced because we have biases and social pressures. Do you know the concept of "conflict of interest"? Imagine all the funding lost if a whole school of thought like evolution were discarded. Now I am not saying this about evolution because there is some truth in evolution. However, when there is a power structure, there will most likely be myths that are perpetuated to maintain that power structure.
 
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As a Christian, you should know to understand something before judging it.

If you understood dating methods, you would know that carbon dating is not used for fossils over ~40 000 years old, as it is not accurate in identifying age past that. Carbon dating does give wonky answers for things that are older than ~40 000 years, but that does not mean its flawed; That would be like putting an elephant on a bathroom scale, and saying that the scale is flawed for giving a wonky reading.


There are other methods that are used for older ages which are very accurate (for example Uranium-lead dating - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), if you are willing to understand, before you judge a whole branch of science.

same principle applies

so no diff .
 
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well in case you did not notice this is the Baptist section we worship God here not men, go bow down to your false god some where else.

test of time little over hundred years the theory has been out there, that is you test of time.

Schools in greece taught Zeus was the head of the Gods now we call it mythology, schools through out history have taught things that later people look back at and say that was ridiculous. The Bible has stood the test of time.

I am a Christian. If you did not notice, this is a Christian forum, so please do not belittle and insult your brothers and sisters in Christ.
 
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There are flaws in the theory of evolution. The consensus now is that Darwinian or "gradual" evolution cannot sufficiently explain the changes in species. Scientists have developed new theories over the years regarding evolution to fill in the "flaws" of gradual evolution. "Punctuated equilibrium" is one such example.

Evolution has been in a constant flux because when they find one road block, they have to work out a way to theorize around it. This is how science is supposed to work; trying to disprove theorizes is essential to discovering the truth in science. There are some facts in evolutionary science but the extreme end of evolution is in constant change; one theory comes another theory goes.

Also, It sounds like you trust the academic system to clean up its dirty work and that if theories were flawed, that they would be discarded. This is not always the case, though. You see pure science is never practiced because we have biases and social pressures. Do you know the concept of "conflict of interest"? Imagine all the funding lost if a whole school of thought like evolution were discarded. Now I am not saying this about evolution because there is some truth in evolution. However, when there is a power structure, there will most likely be myths that are perpetuated to maintain that power structure.

The theory of evolution itself is not flawed, but if you mean that Darwin's original proposal, yes, there have been much refining over the years as our understanding of biology got clearer.

You're right that the theory of evolution was missing some explanations, but that doesnt mean its flawed. Or maybe its just semantics. For example, we know now that Newton's theory of gravitation was missing a lot explanations as well, but the theory of gravitation still upholds today. Gravity is a pillar of physics, just as evolution is a pillar of biology.
 
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The theory of evolution itself is not flawed, but if you mean that Darwin's original proposal, yes, there have been much refining over the years as our understanding of biology got clearer.

You're right that the theory of evolution was missing some explanations, but that doesnt mean its flawed. Or maybe its just semantics. For example, we know now that Newton's theory of gravitation was missing a lot explanations as well, but the theory of gravitation still upholds today. Gravity is a pillar of physics, just as evolution is a pillar of biology.

the theory of evolution is not flawed...??

what ? so God is ?
 
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the theory of evolution is not flawed...??

what ? so God is ?

No, I believe God and evolution are not mutually exclusive! They both can be reconciled in the same universe. Understanding evolution showed me what an intelligent creator God can be :)

But if you think otherwise, so be it. We come to this forum not because of our differences, but because of our likened faith in Christ. So peace :wave:
 
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It seems you are right ^_^

Funny Jesus rebuked people I guess he was not loving them, As for standing low, At least I am in.

Fun thing is you get brave behind a keyboard fact is you spoke that way to me in person i might forget my self and just lay you out. I did not know cowards could stand tall. How about you stop following me around and harassing me been months now even have you on ignore yet here you are.


Mods have already closed one thread because of you, how about you stay out of this one.

Its the words a man speaks which let us know his heart, you like to start conflict and put people down, That is not Godly, and your also a hypocrite You say I am not showing love while you are hating on me. He who hates his brother is a murder and does not have eternal life in them..
 
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